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EJHS grad fights to get back in United States
The Sentinel-Lewistown ^ | 12/23/16 | Tabitha Goodling

Posted on 12/26/2016 1:11:43 PM PST by rosepetal81

Going home for Christmas is something many local folks living abroad or out of state would love this year. For one East Juniata High School graduate, coming home to the United States from the United Kingdom has not been an option for a year and a half, and he doesn’t know when it will be an option again. U.K. officials tell Adam Kingdon, a 1993 graduate of EJHS, that he is not the United States citizen he thought he was all the years he lived in Central Pennsylvania and more recently near Cleveland, Ohio.

(Excerpt) Read more at lewistownsentinel.com ...


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To: Will88

No, his mother was underage when she left and she never got him US citizenship while in the UK. In fact, she and he kid have always known there were likely problems with his being a legit US citizen.

So, what’s wrong with being a UK citizen?


21 posted on 12/26/2016 1:38:27 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: PAR35

Lol, you cite no specific law and the article is short on details. Maybe far less internet pontificating from you.


22 posted on 12/26/2016 1:42:35 PM PST by Will88
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Exactly, what kind of fool do they think we are?


23 posted on 12/26/2016 1:46:56 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: rosepetal81
The story is about an illegal alien, not a US citizen.


24 posted on 12/26/2016 1:52:50 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: dila813

I’d rather not say.


25 posted on 12/26/2016 1:53:19 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Will88

Well, if you bothered to read the whole thread, you’d see that a couple of other folks had already hit on the issues. So apparently, in addition to being too lazy to look up the law yourself, you are too lazy to read posts that aren’t directed to you.

As for your signature “Will88”. 88 is used by neo-Nazis to stand for the 8th letter of the alphabet twice, or HH, short for Heil Hitler. And ‘Will’ may be a reference to the biographical movie about Hitler, ‘Triumph of the Will’. It’s not the first time I’ve seen a signature on FR with an 88 in it.


26 posted on 12/26/2016 1:58:39 PM PST by PAR35
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To: rosepetal81

Wow, this is my husband’s hometown paper!


27 posted on 12/26/2016 2:00:33 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Valpal1

Did the mother and son move back to the US and remain? The son finished HS in the US . Was the mother in the US while he attended HS?

There are not enough specifics in this article to draw any conclusions about the technical, legal problems.


28 posted on 12/26/2016 2:01:15 PM PST by Will88
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To: Valpal1
You nailed it. If he had a US passport, there would be no problem. He obviously traveled on another country's passport, probably from the UK.

Since the UK is on the visa wavier program, he would not need a visa to enter the US, but by traveling multiple times within a year, he would have a problem re-entering the US. You can only stay up to 90 days at a time up to two times a year.

The U.S. Embassy told Grant her son was indeed a citizen because Grant was a citizen. He received a Social Security card and lived in the U.S. through 2015.

BS. The Embassy would never have told him that. I wonder how he got his SSN? Thru Obama's DACA program?

29 posted on 12/26/2016 2:03:20 PM PST by kabar
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To: PAR35

Lol, lol, lol. You’re trying to apply laws not cited to facts not in evidence. Clowns like you can make forums like this a waste of time.


30 posted on 12/26/2016 2:08:09 PM PST by Will88
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To: rosepetal81

Headline should read:

Sherrod Brown is incompetent.
This is an easy task for a competent Congressman or Senator. This type of case is resolved all the time.


31 posted on 12/26/2016 2:08:42 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

-He has a British passport.
-He’s worked in the US illegally.
-He has a criminal history and lied about it on his immigration paperwork.
-He abandoned his citizenship application by leaving the country without filing an I-131.
http://www.lewistownsentinel.com/news/local-news/2015/08/migrant-mix-up/

And that’s just what we know about. There’s a reason the Congressional offices are playing ‘hot potato’ with this one.


32 posted on 12/26/2016 2:09:29 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Will88
His mother is a US citizen, so he is also. Not necessarily. His mother or him had to apply for US citizenship. And there are eligibility requirements. He was born overseas.

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.

I see that he is applying for a green card. No doubt his mother is sponsoring him, but he must get in line. If he graduated high school in 1993, he must be around 40 years old.

33 posted on 12/26/2016 2:12:19 PM PST by kabar
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To: rosepetal81
“His mother, Caroline Grant, is a U.S. citizen who moved with her family to the U.K. when she was a teen. She married a British man at age 17 and gave birth to Kingdon a year later in the U.K.”

In 1976 what was the law concerning the establishment of citizenship for 18 year old mothers. When Obama was born, his mother was a minor (under 21), and because of her age could not impart US citizenship to Obama under the law.

This may be the same case, but the man probably traveled under a British Passport to the UK, and could not return. If he has a US passport he would not have been refuse admission or travel to the US.

34 posted on 12/26/2016 2:13:56 PM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: rosepetal81

I don’t believe this story. If he believed he was a citizen he would have gotten a US passport to go to England. But he obviously did not. He used a English passport. So there is no reason to think he declared his US citizenship at 18 which would have been required.

This guy was trying to skirt the citizenship declaration. He wanted to use two passports. But he got caught.


35 posted on 12/26/2016 2:15:56 PM PST by poinq
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To: kabar

From the information presented, do you think the problem is that he was eligible for citizenship, but the paperwork was never done? Or, he was never eligible?

If the first, can he still establish his citizenship?


36 posted on 12/26/2016 2:17:49 PM PST by Will88
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To: PAR35

Thanks. That link was quite informative. Sounds like a case of sucks-to-be-you for Mr. K.


37 posted on 12/26/2016 2:17:52 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Will88
I don't know, but it appears that he could have been eligible if his mother had applied at the time of his birth or shortly thereafter. Now that he is an adult, a different set of rules come in play.

He had to have some sort of passport to travel to the UK by himself. I am fairly certain he has a UK passport and the fact that he is working there seems to indicate that. The US recognizes dual nationality so getting an American passport is possible if he is eligible. He is supposedly in the queue for a green card, which will lead to a path to citizenship.

I find it curious that he has an SSN. Something fishy there.

38 posted on 12/26/2016 2:26:24 PM PST by kabar
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To: Yulee

This case is totally different from Obama. Obama was born in the US. So he is a US citizen. The fact that Obama was born here and did not take on any other citizenship after eighteen would have defaulted him to US citizenship. His mother did play fast an loose too. But that was when he was a child. Had she gotten a foreign passport for Obama as an adult for either Indonesia or Kenya, he would have lost his citizenship and would have had a hard time getting back into the country too.


39 posted on 12/26/2016 2:29:12 PM PST by poinq
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To: Will88
> His mother is a US citizen

The article is unclear.

"Caroline Grant, is a U.S. citizen who moved with her family to the U.K. when she was a teen. She married a British man at age 17 and gave birth to Kingdon a year later in the U.K.

She took Kingdon, at the age of three, to the U.S. on March 19, 1979 on a visitor’s visa and British passport."

Did Caroline Grant become a British citizen? She moved there when she was "a teen" and then when she was 17 married a British man. A "year later" she had a child. Three years later she and the child traveled to the U.S. "on a visitor’s visa and British passport".
40 posted on 12/26/2016 2:31:45 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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