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An open letter to men, who can help female runners feel safe
NT News ^ | December 6, 2016 | Carolyn Tate

Posted on 12/06/2016 11:08:19 AM PST by conservative98

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To: conservative98

Her rules for running are absurd - don’t hold the same speed, either pass or fall behind. When I was a runner, my pace on training runs was calculated. I didn’t really take notice of whomever I was ahead of or behind. If I was going to run at a 9:30 pace, then that is what I would run.

If that were to make her uncomfortable because I was behind her, she would have plenty of opportunity to speed up and pull away from me or slow down and let me pass. It wasn’t my fault that she felt uncomfortable.

Fortunately, I did most of my running on a very quiet road, away from most everybody. There were seldom other people around me so I didn’t worry about striking fear into an insecure snowflake.


101 posted on 12/06/2016 12:26:55 PM PST by meyer (There is no political solution to this troubling evolution...)
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To: conservative98

Ladies, the key is to: Jog With A Dog

Preferably a large beast. You’ll be fine. You can thank me later, and you don’t need a man for that...


102 posted on 12/06/2016 12:28:08 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: conservative98

This is stupid. Good men don’t need these recommendations, and bad men... well, they won’t listen because they WANT to be hanging out on a trail wearing a dark hoodie. They WANT to scare you, rape you, whatever. So a polite essay in the media will not reach the creepy homeless guy who thinks he is allowed to touch you.

Yeah, I’d love to open or concealed carry legally. That would really help.


103 posted on 12/06/2016 12:29:07 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Varda

I used to run with a male Rhodesian Ridgeback and often also with a female Greyhound. I was very careful and aware of my surroundings. Now I use a treadmill. It’s not as much fun, but it is much safer.

More than once I had men in cars ask me for directions. I never stopped. As soon as I could I would take a few turns and head back home as fast as I could run. Yes, I was afraid, even with my RR male.


104 posted on 12/06/2016 12:29:34 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: meyer

The truth is most men who are out for a run don’t want to rape her. They don’t want to grope her. They don’t want to interrupt her and strike up a conversation. They really aren’t paying much attention to her at all.

They just want to finish their workout and get on with their day.


105 posted on 12/06/2016 12:29:47 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ctdonath2
“Every woman I know has been in a situation at least once in their life when they thought their life was actually in danger. Can you imagine that?”

Good point - I think every man I know has actually been in at least one situation where their life was actually in real danger. Forget the just "thinking" part. I don't need to "imagine" the experience, I can remember all of them quite vividly.

106 posted on 12/06/2016 12:29:52 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: conservative98
Dear Ms. Tate,

Sincerely,

Men

107 posted on 12/06/2016 12:30:12 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: conservative98

I hate to be catty-but could she have found a more garish shade of lipstick for that photo-it is a terrible color-meow!


108 posted on 12/06/2016 12:30:12 PM PST by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to drive a hard line"...)
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To: vigilence

Unless a bullet from a repeat proven stalker has already left his gun headed in your direction, you can’t get a CC in California. :(


109 posted on 12/06/2016 12:35:17 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: conservative98

I try to avoid situations where I am uncomfortable. Based on her article, dealing with her would make me uncomfortable. A ski machine works for me.


110 posted on 12/06/2016 12:35:23 PM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: blueunicorn6

Well, I wasn’t precise.

What I really meant was that if in a situation, I would attempt to provide physical assistance if needed...not make her feel safe.

As you rightly stated, we generally CAN’T do that, it is personal responsibility.


111 posted on 12/06/2016 12:36:21 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The truth is most men who are out for a run don’t want to rape her. They don’t want to grope her. They don’t want to interrupt her and strike up a conversation. They really aren’t paying much attention to her at all.

For me, the biggest concern was usually if I'd survive the next 3 miles or not. :)

112 posted on 12/06/2016 12:36:50 PM PST by meyer (There is no political solution to this troubling evolution...)
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To: arrogantsob

The world is a much more dangerous for all of us, thanks to the lack of regard for others prevalent in recent years-I’m a woman-I’m fortunate enough to live where good ol’ boys still respect women-like I said, I carry when I hike-mostly because of animal predators in the woods-but even with my gun I would not hike in even a ladeda neighborhood in the city...


113 posted on 12/06/2016 12:37:00 PM PST by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to drive a hard line"...)
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To: Stentor

I would NEVER go running at night. She’s kind of an idiot.


114 posted on 12/06/2016 12:37:31 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Sadly, I know a young woman who was raped, beaten, and kidnapped while running this time last year. She survived. The creep was caught and is now spending the remainder of his sorry life behind bars due to a record.

I might have been skeptical of this article in the past. I’m not now. This lady is trying for good advice, but here’s the best advice. Don’t run without a partner and pledge to remain within feet of each other while running. Next, butt pack and concealed carry license for each runner. That is a tough security ring that is hard to beat.


115 posted on 12/06/2016 12:39:14 PM PST by xzins
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To: SamAdams76
Sexual Harassment and YOU (with Tom Brady)
116 posted on 12/06/2016 12:40:05 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: xzins

I agree, she starts out giving reasonable advice, and then takes a sudden left turn into Feminist whackoland.

Not denying for one second that brutal rapes and crimes
have actually occurred.


117 posted on 12/06/2016 12:41:57 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Yaelle
I would NEVER go running at night. She’s kind of an idiot.

I walk on a fairly secluded path in Fairmount Park in Philadelphia. I'm armed to the teeth, even in daylight. I am passed multiple times daily by women in clothes that wouldn't hide a bobby pin, let alone a weapon. I don't get it.

118 posted on 12/06/2016 12:44:31 PM PST by Stentor
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To: trisham

Our first family dog was a Ridgeback. We were in love with him but he was too territorial. Had to be quarantined twice and finally we had to get rid of him. Remodeling workers could bring ANY materials into the yard but if they took one brick or board AWAY from our house he flipped out. Bit one worker, then bit a friend visiting who spanked his daughter when she got too close to the barbecue. Dog let that man have it, bit him on his back. We returned him to the breeder. But he was our first dog and we loved him.


119 posted on 12/06/2016 12:45:03 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Stentor

I’d love to carry but I don’t want to get arrested. Bravo for you!


120 posted on 12/06/2016 12:45:47 PM PST by Yaelle
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