Posted on 12/05/2016 5:58:49 AM PST by ExpatCanuck
City and fire officials ignored numerous violations because this was a collective of 'artists' and an enclave of progressive values. They (the victims) didn't deserve to die for this, but that is why they did. Had this been a remotely conservative venue, say a Tea Party meeting place, or a church meeting house, it would have been shut down a long long time ago due to the safety violations.
The officials are in full hand wringing and teeth gnashing mode trying to figure out how something this terrible could happen and will no doubt find their scapegoat (deservedly so in this case) in operator Derick Ion, and conveniently forget their selective enforcement of regulations as being a significant contributing factor.
You NAILED it! It was absolutely a Ideologically non-enforced law situation that was avoidable!
Just like the the non-enforcement of laws restricting Aliens from entering our Nation are Ideologically Not Enforced!
Illegal drug laws, vagrant laws, indecent exposure, incite to riot, threats against law enforcement officers; any number of laws that are not enforced are glaring examples of Ideologically non-enforced laws!
I saw that too!
Lots of chicks playing at dress up.
Fire Chief Heather needs to take of the costume, go home, and make a man a sandwich, for real.
Someone is going to get hurt due to this PC farce.
I think folks are having trouble translating from the Canadian. I got it though, crystal clear.
You hit upon a salient point:
DIVERSITY KILLS.
I’ve seen art collectives like that. They are death traps. They are filled with rags, solvents, and debris. For some unknown reason the artists LOVE collecting pallets. They are usually in a “hip” old wooden warehouses.
Yes. Liberalism is by idiots without common sense.
Well, Oakland is a registered ‘Sanctuary City’. I’d imagine they don’t enforce a lot of rules since they have plenty of illegals living there.
Yes. We need more regulation and more enforcement.
The taxpayers (city) should be sued and pay each one of these fine peoples family a couple million each to relieve their pain and suffering.
These are not persons who should bare any responsibility for congregating in an obvious unsafe structure. These are “artists” who love free expression. (Irony)
Caution: This post may contain sarcasm.
Absolutely correct with your analysis.
Yesterday on my local news, one of the survivor of the fire was interviewed. He stated that the city was aware. He recalls Police Officer coming inside and were amazed how the warehouse was decorated. One of the police stated “Wow that’s cool” meanwhile ignoring any safety hazards.
So the city was very much aware of the situation but hey Oakland is a sanctuary city ya know. All laws for liberals in that city are simply suggestions.
If it had been a Conservative or Tea Party organization, they would have fixed the safety violations or abandoned the venue and this wouldn’t be an issue.
“Did Liberalism Kill Those in the Oakland Warehouse Fire?”
Of course not. It was Bush’s fault. No, wait. It was because of white privilege. No, that’s not it either. It must be Trump’s fault. No, he’s hasn’t taken office yet. So, golly, gee whiz. I’m so confused. The only thing I’m sure of is that it can’t possibly liberalism or just plain stupidity. It just has to be the fault of white guys like me. The left just needs more time to come up with an idiotic excuse that they haven’t used before.
Those images...reminds me of ‘steve’s weird house’.
It’s pretty self evident when they’re talking about numerous complaints on the news and the facility advertised parties and activities online and probably on phone poles and such in the area.
It’s pretty self evident when they’re talking about numerous complaints on the news and the facility advertised parties and activities online and probably on phone poles and such in the area.
The city of Oakland should be held accountable for their in-action . .
imho
:-)
Liberalism allowed this however even though the “artist” who ran the place said the owner was to blame, actually it’s the occupants who are to blame.
“I’m curious: do you actually have evidence that city officials ignored violations?”
It was a warehouse that had been illegally converted into apartments. It obviously had inadequate fire suppression sprinklers and it obviously had inadequate fire exits.
Did the building inspectors red tag the warehouse like they should have?
No.
There’s your evidence.
As I pointed out in an earlier post, property owners (and tenants) have rights - and one of those rights is the right to due process.
Please use your intellect to think about the issues surrounding this tragedy instead of simply relying on your initial knee-jerk emotional reaction.
In my opinion, the organizers of the illegal "rave" have a lot more culpability in this tragedy than either the owner of the building, or the city's building officials. The tenant is equally culpable for creating and maintaining a fire hazard, and also for allowing people to live there illegally (assuming that he actually did so). As po0litically incorrect as it may be, I also think those who attended, and stayed at, the "rave" (yes, the victims) also have some culpability for being too ignorant or stupid to watch out for their own best interests and personal safety.
Finally, building codes for "existing" (read: old) buildings are quite often different from those for new construction. They also differ from locale to locale. I have yet to see any evidence that the building code for Oakland even requires sprinklers for a warehouse the age of the building in question. As far as illegal uses and occupancy go, no city could afford to employ the number of code officials it would take to track down and eliminate every illegal or nonconforming use within their jurisdiction. And to ask them to do so would be to invite a heretofore unprecedented level of government interference in the lives of property owners.
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