If you saw my previous post you would see I spoke of PROPER class rooms in schools which we do not have today. The comment you responded to of my started with “ALSO”. So the rest of your comment is just you making yourself feel good.
I don’t think that Black Elk was making a personal attack. I think that BE was responding to the wishful nature of a proper classroom vs what we have at this point. All the things he wrote are true and many parents are anguished at subjecting their children to such a toxic brew. That makes for vehemence.
There are positive things that a child can learn from group learning & outside adults as authority figures but its a judgement call whether that will be true at any particular American school at present. There is no reason not to allow children & parents to pursue alternative routes of education and socialization.
Actually, my entire post is about the hopelessness of what used to be normal Christian or even normally moral parents sending their precious children into the maw of the National Education Association or American Federation of Teachers unions' edumakashunal wasteland designed NOT to educate students in any meaningful way but rather to make for an ever increasingly expensive faculty with unnecessary fat salaried adminstrators galore and very few of them even CAPABLE of educating their pets to "roll over" or "sit" much less incarcerated teenagers to understand what used to be simple studies in algebra or geometry or classical languages and literature or modern languages and literature or even English and its literature, Chemistry or Physics? (fuggedaboudit!)
The BIG problem in gummint edumakashun is how to keep the utterly bored inmates in the prison from escaping to qualified private schools or, worst of all!, homeschooling with its infinite flexibility. And there are THREE answers from the gummint edumakashun apologists and propagandists.
First is the argument from teen angst. You don't want to be DIFFERENT, do you? If you are homeschooled, you may NEVER get laid or at least until you are married to someone of the opposite sex and your parents are expecting grandchildren (YUCK!). Where's the FUN in that?
Second is SPECTACLE. Hey kids! See our FOOTBALL (basketball, etc.) TEAM and our irreverent MARCHING BAND and ask the school office for a full list of our diversions to make your gummint skewel almost minimally tolerable.
Third is encouraging RESENTMENT as a way of life. If many teens feel that what they imagine to be their superior talent and knowledge are not REALLY appreciated as they should be because no one (and certainly not Donald Trump) are calling them to make major policy decisions (unilateral disarmament, institutionalization of infinitely more Marxism, the final suppression of that uppity and pesky Caucasian race, and the final suppression of all those nosy, intrusive Judaeo-Christian "religions" trying to spoil our fun, etc.), then it is the "system" that is defective. About 90% of our "teachers have driven that inspiration home to us as the glorious future of our nation that WE will lead and they are SUCH ACCOMPLISHED PEOPLE that they MUST be right." Our parents will NEVER understand.
These gummint teachers are the modern "comprachecos" (look it up!) who take it as their opportunity to warp the children rather than educate them.
I saw your post but saw little in it to take seriously. "PROPER classrooms" have NOTHING to do with it. St. Ignatius Loyola went into the religious life and teaching high school age students (magnificently) after, as a military man, he suffered the destruction of a knee by a cannonball in a siege. He taught his students OUTDOORS on a hillside in Toledo and until about five decades ago, provided the very finest education available before the Jesuit Order went consciously and voluntarily Marxist (see Frankie the Apostate, and Superiors General like Jean Baptiste Jansens, Pedro Arrupe, Hans Pieter Kolvenbach, and others.
I always "feel good" about the fact that I had a very fine Jesuit prep school education before the Catholicism and natural conservatism of the Jesuits collapsed under the relentless evil of Pedro Arrupe, SJ, who was removed by Pope Saint John Paul II but too late for the Jebbies who are simply no longer "God's Marines." An awful lot (not all) of gummint "teachers" are lucifer's marines.
All you are doing is regurgitating typical gummint "teachers'" unions' propaganda. Sorry! No sale. John Dewey is smiling in hell!