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The Recount - So Far (vanity)
Nov. 29, 2016 | (self)

Posted on 11/29/2016 4:33:59 PM PST by BobL

Maybe it's time we wake up a bit. 1) Trump won by narrow margins in 3 states. 2) Podesta came out and said it's not over 3) Hillary and Obama soon after came out and said it is over 4) We were all happy and figured the rest of the effort to get Trump into office was just a formality 5) We stop worrying about watching the ballots and the machines 6) The Dems go dark, nothing from Hillary, Podesta, Obama questioning the election 7) Stein files for recount, we all (me included) say it's just a joke, a fund-raising scheme...and she raises lots of money. 8) Stein gives us soothing words - that she knows that Hillary lost, instead she just wants a complete tabulation, so as to legitimatize the results. 9) Hillary's people join the recount effort 10) No one on our side bothers asking why the Dems would want to 'legitimatize' Trump's victory 11) The big money requests from the state of Wisconsin comes in, we laugh...we told you so, just a fund-raising scheme 12) Stein shuts us up by paying up 13) So our main theory is blown out of the water - Stein/Hillary are serious about the recount. 14) Two more theories left: A: They want to legitimize Trump's victory B: They think they can overturn the results of the election

Does anyone think that "A" is the answer?

If not, is anyone concerned that "B" may just happen? Are Trump's lawyers watching (if so, they're awfully quiet...totally opposite of Bush's lawyers in 2000)? Are RNC lawyers watching? Do we know the chain of custody of all of the ballots/machines?

Finally, if the answers to the above are no, then are we prepared for Hillary to take office?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: election; hillary; michigan; pennsylvania; recount; stein; trump; wisconsin
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To: the_Watchman
So not only did Gore lose in the courts, "He chose poorly!"

Gore easily one the democrat stacked courts in FLA He was stopped by SCOTUS which has a completely different makeup today
81 posted on 11/29/2016 5:51:13 PM PST by uncbob
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To: BobL

I’ve been keeping up with Gov. Walker’s twitter, he said today, this is just a money-raising scheme by Stein.

https://twitter.com/ScottWalker

One good thing is Mich and Wisc have Republican Governors, maybe they can keep an eye on things.


82 posted on 11/29/2016 5:51:16 PM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: Yulee
No, if a state's results are in dispute, that means the electors have not been appointed. So the required number to win is no longer 270, but less than that. Whoever has a majority of the electors appointed is the winner.
83 posted on 11/29/2016 5:51:22 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: BeadCounter

Has she really raised the goal of her fundraising to 9.5 million bucks?


84 posted on 11/29/2016 5:52:15 PM PST by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: BeadCounter

That Joe Pags was saying Trump will win no matter what, the house will choose him if anything is reversed. I don’t know.


85 posted on 11/29/2016 5:52:38 PM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: pnz1

I don’t know, I know Stein put the money down in Wisconsin from what I understand.


86 posted on 11/29/2016 5:53:13 PM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: BobL

The losers are putting a lot of money on this horse, and it’s no Secretariat or American Pharoah.


87 posted on 11/29/2016 5:53:58 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: BobL

They won’t get past the courts! No recount in PA!


88 posted on 11/29/2016 5:54:07 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Bodega

I advanced this theory when this crap started


89 posted on 11/29/2016 5:54:08 PM PST by QualityMan (I will not comply.)
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To: BeadCounter

It would be a shock to see someone plunk down that amount of cash for a losing effort . . . . if that someone’s name weren’t GEORGE SOROS!


90 posted on 11/29/2016 5:54:13 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: BobL
I read it had been estimated the odds of flipping the election are 10%, but would put it lower... So consider , nobody gambles millions of dollars on the odds of winning only a few percent... so therefore there has to be some other end game..

The possibility of a fund raising effort for Stein is most likely, however she is just a pawn for the donor (s) , no doubt the deal is she gets to skim off a percentage for her role. The real question is why is Soros or other donor(s) are willing to loose millions of dollars on such poor odds of ever flipping one state, let alone three? Seems the prevailing theory is to de legitimize Trumps victory by removing these electoral votes after causing the count to be delayed so that the results cannot be certified in time.. however the supporters of HRC already think the popular vote has done that (sic), so therefore it is baffling why dump millions of dollars to disenfranchise these states, and not even have any chance of flipping, while at the same time all the HRC supporters already think his victory is not legitimate due to popular vote ( sic).

Could it be for example, they may have planted a false flag, fraudulent votes in favor of Trump that can only be brought to attention during a hand count..? For example all they need is a few hundred planted votes, then they sow the seed that this a random sample ( which it really wont be) is just the tip of the ice burg, and therefore call into question every state as now they have proof of tampering by the Russians or Martians, or some boogy man. So if they are able to show fake convincing evidence , they will whip a frenzy in pub;ic opinion..

Bottom line, nobody plunks down millions of drillers without a plan, and that plan may be to uncover fraud they themselves planted and they know now exactly where to look?

91 posted on 11/29/2016 5:55:10 PM PST by seastay
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To: Honorary Serb

“They won’t get past the courts! No recount in PA!”

There seems to be a pattern here where we’re sure they’re defeated...and then they come thought. They have a PERFECT RECORD of winning so far, which is why I think our side might want to start taking them a bit more seriously.


92 posted on 11/29/2016 5:56:16 PM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: BeadCounter

The one who’s worth 24.9 billion U.S. dollars. That George Soros.


93 posted on 11/29/2016 5:56:17 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: BobL
I read it had been estimated the odds of flipping the election are 10%, but would put it lower... So consider , nobody gambles millions of dollars on the odds of winning only a few percent... so therefore there has to be some other end game..

The possibility of a fund raising effort for Stein is most likely, however she is just a pawn for the donor (s) , no doubt the deal is she gets to skim off a percentage for her role. The real question is why is Soros or other donor(s) are willing to loose millions of dollars on such poor odds of ever flipping one state, let alone three? Seems the prevailing theory is to de legitimize Trumps victory by removing these electoral votes after causing the count to be delayed so that the results cannot be certified in time.. however the supporters of HRC already think the popular vote has done that (sic), so therefore it is baffling why dump millions of dollars to disenfranchise these states that don't have any chance of flipping, while at the same time all the HRC supporters already think his victory is not legitimate due to popular vote ( sic).

Could it be for example, they may have planted a false flag, fraudulent votes in favor of Trump that can only be brought to attention during a hand count..? For example all they need is a few hundred planted votes, then they sow the seed that this a random sample ( which it really wont be) is just the tip of the iceburg, and therefore call into question every state as now they have proof of tampering by the Russians or Martians, or some boogy man. So if they are able to show fake convincing evidence , they will whip a frenzy in pub;ic opinion..

Bottom line, nobody plunks down millions of drillers without a plan, and that plan may be to uncover fraud they themselves planted and they know now exactly where to look?

94 posted on 11/29/2016 5:56:23 PM PST by seastay
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To: BobL

Good Summary - I’ve been saying since this first started that “something is up” and we are looking at the “shiny object over there” versus seeing what is really happening - Clinton will find a way to swing at least one state and then delay EV past 12/19. Our only hope of stopping this insanity is next Monday when PA Court hears arguments whether to recount or not. At least in MI I found this: “Trump hired Lansing election law attorneys Gary Gordon and Pirich to represent him in Stein’s recount.”


95 posted on 11/29/2016 5:58:12 PM PST by bobsunshine
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To: BobL

I though Michigan had denied them a recount.


96 posted on 11/29/2016 5:58:52 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: seastay

Pretty good analysis, I happened to turn on some “liberal” radio today, it is kind of interesting to hear what is on their minds about this.


97 posted on 11/29/2016 5:58:55 PM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: BobL

“Thank you. I did note that one of my detractors has been on this forum for under a month...makes me wonder.”

Yep, I noticed that too LOL


98 posted on 11/29/2016 5:59:27 PM PST by LouisianaJoanof Arc
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I though Michigan had denied them a recount.


It is confusing, I thought I heard Michigan was denying a recount BUT not all Michigan votes have been certified. So, that was the other day.


99 posted on 11/29/2016 6:01:50 PM PST by BeadCounter ( Drain The Swamp!)
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To: bobsunshine
Hillary doesn't just have to stop these three states from casting their EVs; she needs to flip all three states from Trump to herself. If they don't vote, they don't count. Delay is not a winning strategy. (Except I don't think they want to win. They want to make Trump litigate them so they can say he stopped the recount, and delegitimize his victory.)
100 posted on 11/29/2016 6:01:50 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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