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Calexit: Leftists File Papers to Secede, Form New Confederacy(bye felicia)
breitbart.com ^ | 11/22/2016 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 11/22/2016 6:41:55 AM PST by rktman

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To: rktman

Like most of the Blue states California is a net contributor of taxes to the fedgov. It is an irony that those who are taxed the most vote for the taxers. Actually I guess that is not true since there are millions within the Blue states who vote Red, there are just too many moochers/leeches/libtards to overcome their votes. Forty five per cent pay NO federal income taxes so you can figure almost all will vote for higher taxes opposed by the producers.


221 posted on 11/22/2016 11:25:35 AM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman, Hater of the Media)
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To: JamesP81

There is no union under your scenario. Many, if not most, states were CREATED by the fedgov. Once the constitution was ratified the idea of a conditional ratification was squelched (see Madison and Hamilton’s correspondence during the NY ratification convention.) Once in the union, always in the union.

Attempts to secede using force are insurrections. If Congress voted to allow secession of a state presumably that would be legal whatever its horrendous practicalities.


222 posted on 11/22/2016 11:33:00 AM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman, Hater of the Media)
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To: rktman

Take Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii with you.


223 posted on 11/22/2016 11:33:57 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: rktman

Damn - another wall Trump will have to build!


224 posted on 11/22/2016 11:35:35 AM PST by HollyB
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To: rktman

Fine. Let them secede and then invade and occupy them.


225 posted on 11/22/2016 11:48:41 AM PST by Ikemeister
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To: central_va

Of course, it is silent. What would induce such thinkers to introduce a poison pill? There is no union with conditional ratification. Madison made that clear with his comment that once in the union always in the Union. Washington warned against secession in his Farewell Address which had been worked on by both Madison and Hamilton. This address has been misrepresented as Isolationist when it is anti-secession.

With Congressional approval secession might be legal but that would require a lot more thought than I choose to give it.


226 posted on 11/22/2016 11:49:22 AM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman, Hater of the Media)
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To: edh

The Chickenhawks are the ones that WANT to go to war to keep a state in the Union. Big talk but ain’t gonna happen. If a state secedes NOBODY is gong to lift a finger to stop them. As it should be.


227 posted on 11/22/2016 11:52:07 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: arrogantsob

The US Constitutions would not have been ratified if no secession clause ever article had been included. Secession is not unconstitutional.


228 posted on 11/22/2016 11:56:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Actually it would very quickly become a problem. Cutting out a cancer sometimes is all that is required but any borders resulting from a CA secession would immediately become like the Mexican/US border with all its problems.

The cancer would quickly metastasize all over the West. AZ, NM, Nevada where would it stop?

Secession is a cancer which once started cannot be stopped.


229 posted on 11/22/2016 12:07:32 PM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman, Hater of the Media)
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To: arrogantsob

Empire is the cancer secession is the cure.


230 posted on 11/22/2016 12:10:14 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Wrong question. The right question is how many will die from the chaos secession would inevitably produce. Chaos in no way limited to the state.


231 posted on 11/22/2016 12:10:45 PM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman, Hater of the Media)
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To: central_va

Wrong question. The right question is how many will die from the chaos secession would inevitably produce. Chaos in no way limited to the state.


232 posted on 11/22/2016 12:10:45 PM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman, Hater of the Media)
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To: JamesP81

Never. Because it surrenders the principle that they have the right to flood any zone they desire with sufficient foreigners, they can take anywhere like that.


233 posted on 11/22/2016 12:11:41 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Twinkie

Slavers clearly did not believe slavery was doomed quite the contrary since the clueless ruling class provoked a war which destroyed the region for nearly a century. Lincoln had done NOTHING to take away their slaves.


234 posted on 11/22/2016 12:14:19 PM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman, Hater of the Media)
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To: Twinkie

Slavers clearly did not believe slavery was doomed quite the contrary since the clueless ruling class provoked a war which destroyed the region for nearly a century. Lincoln had done NOTHING to take away their slaves.


235 posted on 11/22/2016 12:14:19 PM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman, Hater of the Media)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The developers may want them to use in horse trading as open space offsets in exchange for development elsewhere.

It would probably pay to find out what their offer is and find out which is worth more, selling or donating for tax credit.

I certainly wouldn’t pay taxes for the privilege of owning a property I can’t actually do anything with except pay more taxes and insurance on.


236 posted on 11/22/2016 12:14:21 PM PST by Valpal1 (I am enjoying the lamentations of their girly-men on social media.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The developers may want them to use in horse trading as open space offsets in exchange for development elsewhere.

It would probably pay to find out what their offer is and find out which is worth more, selling or donating for tax credit.

I certainly wouldn’t pay taxes for the privilege of owning a property I can’t actually do anything with except pay more taxes and insurance on.


237 posted on 11/22/2016 12:14:22 PM PST by Valpal1 (I am enjoying the lamentations of their girly-men on social media.)
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To: Degaston

I don’t think the farm folk of East Cali and NoCal would elect democrats, they don’t at the county level. They are hostage to the cities at the state level.


238 posted on 11/22/2016 12:16:10 PM PST by Valpal1 (I am enjoying the lamentations of their girly-men on social media.)
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To: Valpal1

Exactly what I’m thinking.


239 posted on 11/22/2016 12:26:03 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic ( “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.”)
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To: JamesP81

Not if we go all Rody “Do Dirty” Duterte on their a sses.


240 posted on 11/22/2016 12:26:53 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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