2nd Fire in Apple iPhone 7 Threatens Mass Recall

Associated Press — through Breitbart News ^ | 21 Oct 2016 | by CHRISS W. STREET

[ThunderSleeps]

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The main takeaway here gang is be careful of high or even moderate capacity Lithium-ion batteries. They pack a fair amount of energy into a small space and have a penchant for releasing that energy in an uncontrolled fashion if not treated properly.

This isn't just a smart phone issue. I happen to be a bit of a flashlight guy too. Not too long ago there were issues with mismatching batteries and lights. Some high powered early LED lights would draw too much too fast through poor regulation circuits and some batteries didn't take to well to that... Things are much better now but you still need a bit of caution.

[arl295]

Actually the Apple recall was for 1.1Million batteries, not 33,000

IT WAS A BIG DEAL

pictures of ibooks catching on fire were on the web already

Apple tried to ignore the problem for as long as possible, until the government forced them to take action

That is why it was a big deal in the media

Dell and HP did there voluntarily and affected way less number of machines, considering they had a way larger market share then Apple

Sorry facts get in the way of agenda

http://www.macworld.com/article/1052568/batteryrecall.html

Source MACWORLD, your very own bible of everything Apple/Mac

[arl295]

Dude, when things are overheating to the point you need to pour water on it, the “waterproof” casing is already compromised, the last thing you want to do is create a bigger chemical reaction and that is exactly what you are suggesting that people do

Fire safety is NOT a joke

[dfwgator]

Fire safety is NOT a joke

[arl295]

Wow, what a small market share. I remember the iBook/MacBook battery fiasco, and I think they had others since then as well. Bursts into flames, you couldn't even take a Apple laptop on a plane because it was such a hazard

Never happened. Please provide your link to prove your contention. . . because it's a lie. The ONLY recall was the one I mentioned where there had been six units that had overheated and Apple recalled 32,000 BATTERIES made by Sony. The same class of batteries also made by Sony had similar problems with Dell and HP and required recall. . . I've been involved with following Apple for 30 years and would know if such a thing ever occurred and it did not! Quit trying to gin up false claims of something that NEVER HAPPENED.

I guess Macworld is part of the anti-Apple agenda now, because they have an article that says exactly what I have been saying. You are just like Hillary, can't accept nor speak the truth, ever.

And the number was 1.1 MILLION not 33,00 that you are falsely claiming. It was a big deal and travel restriction were issued as well.

Article on Macworld http://www.macworld.com/article/1052568/batteryrecall.html

[arl295]

Distract from Apple’s piss poor record, a tactic that Hillary does when anyone brings up her records of failures.

I am starting to wonder if you are Hillary Clinton

[McGruff]

Bwah!

[Swordmaker]

Distract from Apple’s piss poor record, a tactic that Hillary does when anyone brings up her records of failures.

Please post your proof of this "piss poor record." I've posted the actual record, which most on here already know. You've made unsupported claims, and have been caught in a blatant lie posted about what I already posted on this very thread. In other words, put up, or shut up, Mr. Alinsky.

[PLMerite]

Apparently, she’s somebody:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maddie_Ziegler

[Swordmaker]

The recall I was referring to occurred in the late 1990s. My apologies. The second recall had slipped my mind. I did not own one of the affected laptops in the 2006 recall. . . but again it was NOT a recall of an entire laptop as you asserted originally. .. nor was there ever a ban on flying with Apple laptops as you also asserted. SONY again paid for the entire recall and replacement program.

In addition, the battery problem was also shared by DELL, HP was not involved. . . as they were using the same internal battery pack made by SONY:

Apple follows Dell in recalling the laptop computer batteries, which were manufactured using battery cells made by Sony Energy Devices of Japan. “These lithium-ion batteries can overheat, posing a fire hazard to consumers,” said the CPSC in a statement. Dell has recalled more than 4 million Sony-made battery packs.

In addition to the 1.1 million battery packs recalled in this program, the company and government agency indicate that another 700,000 battery packs sold overseas have the same problem.

“Apple has received nine reports of batteries overheating, including two reports of minor burns from handling overheated computers and other reports of minor property damage. No serious injuries were reported,” read the CPSC’s statement.

Dell and HP did there voluntarily and affected way less number of machines, considering they had a way larger market share then Apple

No, there were a similar ratio of fires associated with Dell (but no HP) because the batteries were the same technology that was failing. One of the Dells burst into flame on a plane. And another one in a hotel room in Japan or Hong Kong, as I recall now. Dell alone had to recall 4.1 million batteries. Dell had actually been order to initiate the recall by the CPSC when there were only 22,000 units sold with those batteries and 3 reported fires as of December 16, 2006. The went ahead with sales of units with those batteries and then finally did the battery recall after 4 million had sold in August of 2006. Apple recalled their batteries on the same day as Dell. HP did not use the Sony batteries then.

This incident mirrors the one in the late 1990s, down to the similar ratio of PC laptop battery packs involved in the recall and the fact they were made by Sony. This was a recall of SONY MADE BATTERIES affecting multiple companies.

Now, find more Apple specific problems you claim exist that tainting Apple's reputation which you can scream and shout about that are Apple's own unique problem, not a third party problem, not shared by other companies.

[arl295]

Apple designed and had other people build their products

You can’t blame sony for Apple’s poor designs

Yes, 1.1 MILLION battery recalls was a serious problem for Apple.

I love how you keep changing the goal posts

The laptop, the battery, it doesn’t matter, it is still an Apple product with an apple part number with an Apple SKU and logo. Sony, LG, Samsung, GE, Radio Shack, it don’t matter who actually made it, Apple is still responsible for their failures.

There are pictures on the Net of Apple iBooks with flames coming out of them because of this problem

It was a big deal

Sorry you don’t like the truth

You and Hillary Clinton would go well together

[arl295]

You made up 33,000 batteries were recalled

I PROVED from you own source, Macworld that the number was 1.1MILLION, that is a giant leap from 33,000

Actually to real number was closer to 2 Million.....

I am not the one using Alinsky tactics, Mrs. Hillary

[Swordmaker]

You made up 33,000 batteries were recalled

No, I did not make that up. That was the number of Sony batteries recalled by Apple in the late 1990s. I did not link a source for that because I was using my own memory. Again, you are showing a problem with reading comprehension.

"In the 1990s, when Apple had a similar notebook problem - PowerBooks caught fire and damaged the company's reputation at the time - the problematic PowerBook acquired a funny nickname inside the company: 'The Hindenbook'," writes Tim Onosko in a submission to Dave Farber's IP Mailing List.

It was THAT incident to which I was referring and I did NOT make it up. . . and it did indeed turn out to be a problem with the SONY battery technology that affected all notebooks built by other manufacturers using the same technology from Sony. Why part of that concept do you a problem with that you insist on smearing Apple with Sony's bad product?

The article that block quote came from also noted that it was Dell Laptops that had been banned from Quantas Airline flights for bursting into flames in the 2006 recall frenzy, not Apple laptops. Not even a nice try.

[Swordmaker]

You can’t blame sony for Apple’s poor designs

You can blame Sony, when SONY accepted the fault and paid for the recalls of the defective batteries that Sony had provided to computer manufacturers, HP, Dell, Apple, Lenovo, Fujtsu, and Toshiba, reaching a total of over SEVEN MILLION batteries recalled by October 2006! — Source is "Sony Laptop Battery Recall Widens"— NBC report from October 13, 2006.

That is an uncomfortable thing which is called an historical fact, Arl295. . . but YOU want to rewrite history to make the recalled 7 million batteries made by Sony for VARIOUS COMPUTER COMPANIES completely disappear but focus instead on the fraction of those batteries made by Sony for Apple bear the entire brunt of the recall. . . YOU ARE DELUSIONAL!

Only HP, who also used the Sony batteries, but a different model and technology, was not included in the recall.

[Swordmaker]

Dude, when things are overheating to the point you need to pour water on it, the “waterproof” casing is already compromised, the last thing you want to do is create a bigger chemical reaction and that is exactly what you are suggesting that people do

First of all, we WERE joking and secondly, if it is merely HOT, the water resistant casing has not been compromised and cooling it down by any means available may help.

I was not the one making the suggestion. Again, you show your complete lack of reading comprehension. My sole contribution to that initial comment, was:

B Rider: "Is this the waterproof iphone? If it is the solution is simple, keep it in a bowl of water in the car. ;)"

Swordmaker: "Hmmmmm. Interesting proposal."

Do you see the ";)" following the initial comment made by B Rider? That is a smiley face, indicating the comment was NOT A SERIOUS SUGGESTION but meant humorously! I saw it. . . and responded humorously as well.

Do you seriously think that anyone would or COULD use an iPhone or any phone by keeping it in a bowl of water while in the car is a smart thing to do???? Or doing it anywhere????

Only a TRULY DELUSIONAL IDIOT would believe that and then be carrying on like you are about the dangers of doing that and confabulating keeping a phone in a bowl of water to trying to put an already ignited phone fire out with water when not a single person on this thread ever suggested such a remedy.

We can only conclude that means you are such a person. i.e. a truly delusional idiot.

YOU HAVE ZERO SENSE OF HUMOR, just like a TRUE LIBERAL. The only reason you are doing this is to score negative points against people who use Apple hardware. . . using Commie Rules for Radicals Alinsky tactics.

[House Atreides]

Do you post anything other than insults & attacks? Just curious.

[arl295]

Do you?

[arl295]

Technically, Apple does not make any products, so they can never held accountable

The hard drives: Seagate, Hitachi, Toshiba
CPUs, Intel
Memory, Micron, Samsung, etc
AC Adapters, Delta, Etc
Motherboards, Foxconn
Displays, LG, Sharp, Samsung

All assembled by the lowest bidder out in China by little kids who live in slave labor camps

Only thing Apple does is marketing, and it is the only thing they can do right

Technically you are right, Apple does not manufacture anything, so they can not be held accountable, Just like Hillary Clinton right?

[Swordmaker]

All assembled by the lowest bidder out in China by little kids who live in slave labor camps

Another outright FASEHOOD from you, LIAR! Apple's contractors would lose their very lucrative Apple contracts if they employ underage workers. Apple has pulled a $2 Billion contract from a company who did not clean up its hiring practices. The workers must be over 18, and the vast majority of the workforce is between 18 and 32. IF an under age worker is found working on any Apple job, the contractor is obligated to PAY FOR A COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY EDUCATION WITH ROOM AND BOARD THROUGH AGE 25 FOR THAT UNDERAGE EMPLOYEE! That is a strong incentive to assure no underage workers get through the hiring process! Apple's employee working conditions are written into every contract Apple executes and Apple has their own monitors at each contract plant overseeing working conditions, as well as independent outside labor agencies monitoring wages and working conditions as well, something no other company does.

The workers on the Apple assembly lines at Foxconn are paid between two and a half to three times MORE than the workers on the other assembly lines for other consumer electronic goods in China. . . and up to SEVEN times the Chinese minimum wage for factory workers in CE. Again, its in the contracts. That's enough to put those workers' income well within the Chinese middle class. Many of them live in the cities around the plants, although others live in the dorms at the plants. That's why when openings come up for jobs on Apple's assembly lines workers queue up by the thousands for just a few hundred positions! That is not slave conditions.

Foxconn, the primary assembler of Apple products, also assembles approximately 50% of the rest of the world's consumer electronic products for companies including:

• Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
• Alcatel (France)
• Amazon (United States)
• Apple Inc. (United States)
• Archos (France)
• ASRock (Taiwan)
• Asus (Taiwan)
• Barnes & Noble (United States)
• BenQ (South Korea)
• Blackberry (Canada)
• Cisco (United States)
• Dell Inc.(United States)
• EVGA Corporation (United States)
• Fujitsu (Japan)
• GE Thomson (US & France)
• Google (United States)
• Griffin Technologies (United States)
• Gründig Mobile (Germany)
• Hewlett-Packard (United States)
• HTC (Taiwan)
• Huawei (China)
• Intel (United States)
• IBM (United States)
• Kyocera Communications (Japan)
• Lenovo (China)
• Lenovo/Motorola Mobility (China)
• LG Lucky GoldStar (South Korea)
• Microsoft (United States)
• Microsoft MSI (Taiwan)
• Motorola Communications (United States)
• NCR (United States)
• NEC Casio Communication (Japan)
• Netgear (United States)
• Nintendo (Japan)
• Nokia Oyj (Finland)
• PackardBell (Netherlands)
• Panasonic (Japan)
• Philips (Netherlands)
• Pioneer Electronics (Japan)
• Samsung (South Korea)
• Sanyo (Japan)
• Sharp (Japan)
• Siemens (Germany)
• Sony (Japan)
• TCL Communication Technology (China)
• Telefunken (Germany)
• Thomson (France)
• Toshiba (Japan)
• Vizio (United States)
• Xiaomi (China)
• Zoostorm (New Zealand)
• ZTE (China)

Further, to highlight you abysmal ignorance, Apple itself manufactures MacPro computers at its Austin, Texas, plant, and iMacs at its Elk Grove, California facility, fifteen miles from my front door. You don't know what you're talking about.

[D Rider]

I think someone missed the part about the izen. It would have been cool. A little rake with the Apple logo on it. ;)