Which? iPhone battery life comparison test deeply flawed

AppleMac ^ | October 3, 2016 | By Jonny Evans

[Shanghai Dan]

Sword, sword, sword - so predictable, call out your posse the second you get in trouble so you can have your minions shout down the opposing side. Not man enough to stand up for yourself, are you? I guess being a limp-wristed SF boi does that...

Since the other components of these phones are essentially the same size, or close to the same size, in all four tested phones—except for the iPhone 7 with its new haptic engine, which none of the others have—the only component that can take up more space IS THE BATTERY, and each of the competitors' phones has a large amount of extra volume to put in a much larger battery!

I did the engineering for you earlier in the thread. I know you hate facts and all (you are, after all, an Apple cultist), but the facts are clearly and unequivocally laid out - the difference in phone size CANNOT account for the extra battery.

Samsung (and, apparently Huawei who did the 6P and now Google) can package a phone more efficiently than Apple.

The iPhone 7 has lower battery life, in this set of tests, than the Samsung, LG, and HTC units.

Facts are always - ALWAYS - terrible things for religious adherents. Think about THAT one for a while. If you have the "courage" to do so, that is...

[Swordmaker]

Sword, sword, sword - so predictable, call out your posse the second you get in trouble so you can have your minions shout down the opposing side. Not man enough to stand up for yourself, are you? I guess being a limp-wristed SF boi does that...

Look DAN. . . there is no "posse", only the people who have been participating on the two threads on this topic. Get off that idiotic meme. i am not in any trouble with YOU on the ropes. YOU are wrong. YOU are the one who's slinging insults because you are WRONG! Batteries are not fitted by AREA, Dan. The VOLUME of the two phones can be easily checked by anyone and here you are DANcing all over the place hoping no one will notice that the volume of the iPhone is approximately 95% of the Google Pixel XL.

You can keep screaming that the iPhone 7 has a lower capacity battery all you want, but you have to ignore the cubic capacity of the phones that it was compared against. . . and you just don't want to admit they were far larger! 18.8% to 43% larger! Give it up. YOU LOST!

[Swordmaker]

Oh Swordmaker, so SO predictable! When you're caught flatfooted, you shout "LIAR!" and call out your troops... Latest data on the Pixel XL and the iPhone 7 plus. Your dimensions you post are wrong (perhaps - LYING?). The iPhone 7 Plus is 90cc; the Pixel XL is 85cc.

This was my source of the dimensions of the Google Pixel XL. . . And was accurate as of the date of my posting.

GSMArena

• The iPhone 7 Plus is 89,963.594 cubic millimeters.

  The Google Pixel XL is 99,541.751 cubic millimeters.

That's a difference of 9,578.121 cubic millimeters.

So you found a newer article published ONE HOUR AGO with a new spec sheet and come on here to attack me. Good form. So HTC, who is building the Pixel for Google has somehow thinned down the spec a bit. Good for them! Whoopee Duck, thinner plastic.

[Shanghai Dan]

So you found a newer article published ONE HOUR AGO with a new spec sheet and come on here to attack me. Good form. So HTC, who is building the Pixel for Google has somehow thinned down the spec a bit. Good for them! Whoopee Duck, thinner plastic.

No, I posted my source for my data well before your response. YOU went and found an alternate, incorrect source. And somehow that's on me. YOU chose to find an alternate source that was wrong, and didn't check the original source.

THAT is poor form. You screwed up, and once again you refuse to take responsibility or own up to YOUR mistake.

Oh, and the Pixel XL? It's an aluminum body, not plastic. So again - you're wrong.

Or, I can pull a Swordmaker and shout "LIAR" and call in a dozen other people to act as a posse...

[Shanghai Dan]

You can keep screaming that the iPhone 7 has a lower capacity battery all you want, but you have to ignore the cubic capacity of the phones that it was compared against. . . and you just don't want to admit they were far larger! 18.8% to 43% larger! Give it up. YOU LOST!

Show your math. Show your sources. You refuse to do so. Because it shows you're wrong.

I put up links where the dimensions are listed. I did the math and showed the physics that unequivocally states the difference in volume CANNOT account for all the difference in battery size.

FACT: the iPhone 7, in this test, does not last as long as the other phones.

FACT: the other phones pack more mWh of battery per cc than the iPhone.

FACT: You are wrong about the dimensions of the Pixel and Pixel XL. You are wrong about the materials of the Pixel and Pixel XL. You were wrong about your claim that all the battery difference was due to the difference in sizes. Three strikes - you're out!

Sucks to be you, doesn't it?

[Swordmaker]

Show your math. Show your sources. You refuse to do so. Because it shows you're wrong.

I already have. Go away, Shanghai Kaine.

[Shanghai Dan]

Why? This is my thread, Swordmaker Clinton.

[Svartalfiar]

Since the other components of these phones are essentially the same size, or close to the same size, in all four tested phones—except for the iPhone 7 with its new haptic engine, which none of the others have—the only component that can take up more space IS THE BATTERY, and each of the competitors' phones has a large amount of extra volume to put in a much larger battery!

That is what is known as a measurable and demonstrable FACT! It's not obfuscating, it's checkable, it's confirmable, and it's repeatable. That's called science, Dan. It's good engineering. There. I've schooled YOU.

So did we just decide to skip my facts in post 45? Since, you know, my compact phone that's about the same specs as your iPhone - The iPhone 7 is 65,887 cubic millimeters in volume, and 138 grams in weight, 326 ppi. My phone is 73,470 mm^3, 138g, and 323 ppi. And somehow my phone has a 2700 mAh battery. Oh, wait, that's right. You have your amazing Taptic engine that you're so proud of. That provides haptic feedback - which I turn completely off because it's one of the most annoying default settings on a phone. Also, every phone has a vibrator in it, what makes you think the new one in the iPhones is so much bigger than in the other phones? I would guess they're all about the same size - which means your claims of losing extra battery volume because of that are completely bogus.

Note the fragmentation Android developers have to contend with just in these three models with pixels per inch of 554, 565, and 576!

That's not a big deal, you can have the phone auto-scale whatever the program/window is to 100% of the screen. Most mobile developers do that, not very much is defined by pixel number. That's been considered bad coding ever since SVGA was supplanted by XGA. Also, you're quite the one to talk considering your iPhone has a completely non-mainstream resolution of 750x1334!

[Swordmaker]

The iPhone 7 is 65,887 cubic millimeters in volume, and 138 grams in weight, 326 ppi. My phone is 73,470 mm^3, 138g, and 323 ppi. And somehow my phone has a 2700 mAh battery.

The fact remains, Svartalfiar, that your phone is still 11.5% larger than the iPhone with essentially the same volume taken by the electronic boards. That means the 11.5% extra volume can be dedicated to extra battery capacity. If the battery took 15% of the space available inside the Xperia compared to the same 15% in the iPhone, then the battery can be 50% larger. because that extra space is 7,583 mm^3, all of which can be added to the already existing battery size in your phone! Ergo, it can easily be 2700 mAh in capacity because there is that much extra space available inside your phone.

Also, you're quite the one to talk considering your iPhone has a completely non-mainstream resolution of 750x1334!

No, there is very little fragmentation that iOS developers have to worry about. There are a very limited number of screen resolutions they have to program their screens to fit, unlike Android. It is much easier. Sorry, it is not as easy as auto-scaling to different size screens because that leads to ugly appearances and touch buttons that don't work properly.

[Swordmaker]

Why? This is my thread, Swordmaker Clinton.

I posted this thread, Dan. Look at the name of the poster on the original posted article. It says "Swordmaker" not "Shanghai Dan".