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The Tyranny Of Pop Music
Youtube ^ | June 15, 2016 | Roger Scruton

Posted on 07/30/2016 8:49:28 AM PDT by OddLane

A brilliant exposition of what's wrong with our society by one of my favorite modern philosophers.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: music; popmusic; rogerscruton
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To: OddLane
This fellow is boring and annoying. There are many reasons we are a moronic society; e.g., modern education; etc. If people can listen to records and compact discs, they may feel no need to learn music. It can take years and years to learn the piano. Some pieces take years even to get through; e.g., Chopin's "heroic" Polonaise. Of course some heavily medicated manic depressives such as myself do try to learn pieces all the way through, It was part of my manic depressiveness that I was frustrated that I couldn't play the music I heard played on the records and I tried for years. Fantasy, used by Allan Freedman in his famous "Letter from Camp"


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41 posted on 07/30/2016 10:08:47 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: HonkyTonkMan
And the worst part is that no one wants it-yet we're subjected to it endlessly.

Adam Carolla also has a great take on this subject.

42 posted on 07/30/2016 10:09:06 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: IronJack

>>As bubble-gummy as the Beach Boys were, at least they could manage some pretty tight harmonies

How bubble-gummy was it when the Manson Family was staying at Dennis Wilson’s house?

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Beach+Boy%27s+manson+family

The Beach Boys are a good example of the phony nature of Pop Music.

Observe the facts regarding who actually played their, and many other, albums produced in that era:

http://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Beach+Boy%27s+Wrecking+Crew


43 posted on 07/30/2016 10:12:22 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: ottbmare
Last month.
44 posted on 07/30/2016 10:16:37 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: HLPhat

The pop music of the 30s and the 40s was the best.


45 posted on 07/30/2016 10:17:27 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Fiji Hill

One of the best parts of Boardwalk Empire-one of my favorite television dramas-was its soundtrack.


46 posted on 07/30/2016 10:23:16 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Something worse than pop music: CNN on in all airports!


47 posted on 07/30/2016 10:29:32 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: longfellowsmuse; HonkyTonkMan

Two things I’d like to add:

One, if one plays an instrument, he (or she) will find his singing voice much improved. My experience.

Two, the idea of having a musical instrument in the household is an old-fashioned but good one. The family should be in the habit of making music together. I think John Senior in one of his books on the demise of Christian culture said the parlor piano should be brought back as a regular item of household furniture.


48 posted on 07/30/2016 10:31:35 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: real saxophonist

>>It is a manufactured product. Its sole purpose is to have monetary value, not artistic value.

The worship music bidness model seems to be about the worship of the recording/artist/instruments/technology V.s. the process of creating music collaboratively in the body of Christ.

Lately I’ve been thinking a bit about how the process of creating music, in the moment, fits with the concept of Samsara - and the endless cycle of rebirth.

Recordings might pay the artists bills - but Jazz is not the recorded end product.


49 posted on 07/30/2016 10:32:13 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: OddLane
If the link to my "Letter from Camp" became squirrely, the this link to my music playing might work better. Music Hutch works intermittently with single selections.
50 posted on 07/30/2016 10:32:25 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: DiogenesLamp

Great insight.


51 posted on 07/30/2016 10:38:52 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Stepan12

[Cool, Clear... water]
https://youtu.be/WDtCa8ZgAk4?t=42s

Actual, simple, musicianship.


52 posted on 07/30/2016 10:39:29 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: DiogenesLamp

They had to coin a name for movie performers, so Time magazine, which was new to the world itself, called them cinemactors. It didn’t take.


53 posted on 07/30/2016 10:44:12 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: thecodont
Great insight.

Thanks. I try to make this point every time the topic comes up. Liberal people tend to gravitate towards these occupations. When they had no power they were generally harmless, but since technology has given this class of people great power, it has now become a threat to our society.

There is a reason we used to "regulate" them. They simply can't help themselves when it comes to misusing their power.

54 posted on 07/30/2016 10:44:25 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: exDemMom; OddLane

I didn’t watch the video but I know this - studies have shown that if a store plays “pop” or more often plain ‘ole rock and roll, customers leave sooner whereas if classical music is played, customers tend to linger. It’s not a secret. Why stores don’t play Mozart, Hayden, and Beethoven is beyond me.

The epitome of such lovely music in a store was the live grand pianos they used to have in Nordstrom that made Nordstrom more of a destination. People would come, sit, and linger. It made you want to stay there. Get a cup of coffee, Maybe stay for lunch at the Cafe Express. It was wonderful. Then some hotshot exec who took over for the Nordstrom brothers decided he knew better and out went the beautiful grand pianos and the beautiful music. Stupid.


55 posted on 07/30/2016 10:51:44 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Nordstrom should consider hiring you, seriously.


56 posted on 07/30/2016 10:54:04 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: OddLane
Even when it's not played backwards?

If Pop music is the problem, then Obama would be telling us we couldn't call it Pop music.....OTOH, I haven't heard him or Hillary use those two words together...hmmmmmm

57 posted on 07/30/2016 10:54:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: HotKat
It runs 24/7 at my ferry terminal.


58 posted on 07/30/2016 11:01:48 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: Jim 0216
Barnes & Noble did the same thing.

Some marketing genius decided that it would be preferable to pipe in pre-fab pop dreck instead of allowing its customers to listen to classical music.

59 posted on 07/30/2016 11:03:18 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: DiogenesLamp

The sad part is that most people cannot disassociate the actor from their characters. People do not know the person, only the persona whom they portray. The glaring difference between the moral characters and the libertine actors is only exacerbated by the fact that their art lies in deception.

What is enjoyable for entertainment purposes is vile in excess. Suspension of disbelief was never intended to become a lifestyle. Today, it has progressed to a complete inability to understand the difference between fantasy and reality.


60 posted on 07/30/2016 11:06:59 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (If those who defend our freedom do not know liberty, none of us will have either.)
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