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To: daniel1212

The point is that obviously Trump HAS ALREADY (pardon my faith here, but I will trust Dobson on this) confessed to men of his faith in Christ. Nothing more , nothing less. You have created an issue where there isn’t one.

Sounds like you want him, and if him, then all Christians, to come to your house and confess it to you before you accept his faith in Christ. And how often should he be confessing it to satisfy you? Does he need to buy television airtime during primetime and make his confession? How many nights?

And your comment to me that, “If you want to contend that Scripture teaches that one who does not want to confess the Lord Jesus is a true believer”, had no basis on which to be made and was out of line.

Please remove me from your ping list.


215 posted on 06/28/2016 6:41:20 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: bramps
The point is that obviously Trump HAS ALREADY (pardon my faith here, but I will trust Dobson on this) confessed to men of his faith in Christ.

And who got this from some unnamed, unverifiable (by us) source, and thus all we have is hearsay, out of which Trump is vehemently contended by some to be what outspoken Trump has not said himself.

You have created an issue where there isn’t one.

Rather, it is not me who trumpeted Trump as being a convert based on hearsay, but zealot supporters, and whose reaction to Biblical reproof of such is akin to Catholic Marian devotees.

Sounds like you want him, and if him, then all Christians, to come to your house and confess it to you before you accept his faith in Christ.

Which is more utterly unwarranted absurdity, as nothing was said about needing to personally confess to me, as instead if Trump would only say what Dobson says someone else said about him then the matter would be settled, presuming he at least basically lives it out.

And your comment to me that, “If you want to contend that Scripture teaches that one who does not want to confess the Lord Jesus is a true believer”, had no basis on which to be made and was out of line.

So unlike the other poster, your objection was not to my statement that "if Trump does not want to confess his conversion then it did not happen," but to not taking Dobson's word on it? In that case i apologize, however, you said you really saw no point in my comment, and yet the point is that we cannot simply take someone's word that someone said someone was converted when the subject himself does not himself testify of this profound change, esp. in the light of his characteristic outspokenness.

We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; (2 Corinthians 4:13)

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (1 John 4:14)

Please remove me from your ping list.

Yes i will as is sadly fitting.

218 posted on 06/28/2016 11:11:05 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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