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Which Rock Star Will Historians of the Future Remember?
NYT ^ | 5/23/2016 | Chuck Klosterman

Posted on 05/25/2016 7:20:38 AM PDT by Borges

Classifying anyone as the “most successful” at anything tends to reflect more on the source than the subject. So keep that in mind when I make the following statement: John Philip Sousa is the most successful American musician of all time.

Marching music is a maddeningly durable genre, recognizable to pretty much everyone who has lived in the United States for any period. It works as a sonic shorthand for any filmmaker hoping to evoke the late 19th century and serves as the auditory backdrop for national holidays, the circus and college football. It’s not “popular” music, but it’s entrenched within the popular experience. It will be no less fashionable tomorrow than it is today.

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To: Borges
While not a “rock star”’ I firmly believe that people 100 years from now will be listening to the music of Mike Oldfield.
121 posted on 05/25/2016 10:37:09 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies)
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To: COBOL2Java

What about Pet Rocks? Will historians recognize a Pet Rock Star?


122 posted on 05/25/2016 10:44:51 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: wbarmy

ABBA was hugely popular worldwide. Nelson Mandela said they were his favorite group.


123 posted on 05/25/2016 10:48:41 AM PDT by Borges
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To: FXRP
Two things I can always play over and over and over again from the "Woodstock" movie at full volume: Yes, I know how drugged up those two (Hendrix and Santana) were at the time, so don't tell me; doesn't matter. Besides, who doesn't dig the video cut at the beginning of Santana's song, showing the braless chick digging the music!

First runner-up: Ten Years After "I'm Goin' Home"

124 posted on 05/25/2016 10:51:22 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: Snickering Hound
Best R&R drummer I've ever seen/heard.

Having been a drummer (albeit mediocre) of the same genre and era, I would hope my opinion on the subject is worth something.

125 posted on 05/25/2016 10:52:29 AM PDT by daler
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To: Borges

It would seem that Chuck Berry, along with the Grateful Dead, are already two that are gone and forgotten.


126 posted on 05/25/2016 10:53:37 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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To: HandyDandy

Check Berry is still alive.


127 posted on 05/25/2016 10:54:28 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Chuck


128 posted on 05/25/2016 10:54:40 AM PDT by Borges
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To: rhoda_penmark
"Come on boys you know...Camp Town Ladies sing this song do da, do da, Camp Town race track 5 miles long ol' the do da day"
129 posted on 05/25/2016 10:56:16 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Borges

Well that settles it

Nelson Mandela..,,,last word on pop relevance

Borges Borges

What are we to do with you..,

When your pals in the entertainment world finish destroying western Christian civilization no one will remember any of this

It’ll be like one big Easter Island “what the hell happened here park” for space aliens to visit

Course if they find an old iPod they can crank up they’ll likely be impressed with Waylon or the Stones


130 posted on 05/25/2016 10:56:56 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Borges
Don't forget his brother, Marvin!

Marvin Berry and the Starlighters helped Chuck get that sound! :-)

131 posted on 05/25/2016 10:57:33 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: shotgun

He didn’t write this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnhI_ECOAK4

Jr Walker & Allstars - Shotgun :-)


132 posted on 05/25/2016 11:11:12 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

I wasn’t ever crazy about the Bee Gees, but they did pretty much invent disco. I wasn’t ever crazy about disco, either.


133 posted on 05/25/2016 11:16:31 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: Borges
Cool thread, thoughts.IMO..
Never knew Abba had so many fans

Stones are probably the most unique rock band ever, somehow their music sounded different, a sound all their own, no matter what the genre. And Richards, beyond his 9 lives, is a very under-rated musician/arranger/writer.

Lennon/McCartney, perfect mix of sweet-n-sour in song writing. Saw McCartney a few years ago via a free tix(front row), was a Beatles fan but usually not enthused about seeing a 65+ aging rocker but was very surprised at the energy and genuineness of his show. Really wasn't expecting that good a concert, probably been to 100 or so concerts in my life, that was a top 5.

Someone mentioned Alvin Lee and 10 Years After, one of my all time favorites

Lots of nostalgia washing over me seeing all these oldies mentioned, thank y'all for that. Good stuff!
134 posted on 05/25/2016 11:16:36 AM PDT by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: dmz; Brookhaven; LS; Mr. Mojo; Pelham; miss marmelstein; Travis McGee; mrsmel

You can think what you want but I can tell you having worked with them which one lasted longer and which still gets more AirPlay and downloads and had more so called hits

Lynyrd Skynyrd

I like the Allman Brothers.....they first established the genre genesis no question.....CCR was from California and sorta sneered at back then as AM hit makers.....which now sure seems silly no?

Duane with Boz on Loan me a Dime is arguably a premier solo guitar work

All the Allman work up through Brothers and Sisters was stellar....despite heavy personal loss and Greggs Laid Back is still great take the lady to bed background music rivaling Avalon

But they were a southern blues based Jazz Jam band ...like the mother of Panic today

I saw them in huge festival multi act venues from 71-77

Now the little band from the less than cool parts of Duvall county were a rock band....they made southern rock....well....literally rock and spawned everyone pretty much except ZZ Top and the ABB though you could say Marshall Tucker was more Allman like

Skynyrd sold far more records and filled by themselves bigger venues and made it scary for acts like the Who and Stones to top bill over them....kinda like when Chuck followed Jerry’s busted burning piano legend.....and “now top that “”.....””

Excellent live band and still are despite having half the band wiped out including the man that made the band

With his little brother they carried on really well live and even managed to sell a few albums and a buttload of TV commercials and movie soundtracks

And still have about the only single to rival Stairway

Personal preference is personal of course...I like both but I think Skynyrd ages better and I still listen to it more though Statesboro Blues is always good motivational music

Btw....I agree with LS post in entirety

People like us who lived it in real time have a persoective can’t be matched but I assume that includes you too with a nick like DMZ

But you could be referring to recent ROK tour?

Anyhow...can’t go wrong either way or enjoy both


135 posted on 05/25/2016 11:22:10 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Borges

John Williams...


136 posted on 05/25/2016 11:22:36 AM PDT by TXnMA (Recorded for posterity...)
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To: Brookhaven

I cant disagree with a single thing you said regarding those drummers,,however might i add this.If Ringo Starr walked on stage with any of those bands and asked to sit in for a session would any of them have the balls to say no?If Paul McCartney asked to play guitar or sing along,,who would have the balls to tell him no? The Beatles music is over 50 years old and still as fresh today as the day it was first performed.No band living today can match thier success.IMHO


137 posted on 05/25/2016 11:33:47 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Vendome

He definitely was big.


138 posted on 05/25/2016 11:40:44 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: Borges
In 1968 we had James Brown. He played a concert in Boston to "quell the riots" that were sweeping the major cities following the assassination of MLK. Introduced on stage by Hizzonah Kevin White.

Who could fill the shoes of the Godfather of Soul today? (I mean, ya know, now that Prince is gone).

139 posted on 05/25/2016 11:43:29 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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To: Brookhaven

As for Drummers, what are your thoughts on Ian Paice of Deep Purple?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSrTrKFpAYE


140 posted on 05/25/2016 11:44:15 AM PDT by Zeneta
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