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To: NaturalScience

Oh no, I meant Article VI, Sec. 3 Clause 1. It’s the Oaths clause. Every public official down to dog catcher is required to take the oath to uphold the Constitution. That means no state officer can take an act to have their state quit the Union without violating the oath. Therefore no state can legally seceed because there is no lawful authority to do so.


92 posted on 05/13/2016 6:51:58 PM PDT by henkster (DonÂ’t listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: henkster

That’s nonsense. The oaths are to uphold the CONSTITUTION, not “the Union,” or to some specific list of member states.

The notion that a states’ joining the Union is an absolutely irrevocable, registered-in-Heaven, utterly unbreakable covenant, flies in the face of the Declaration of Independence.

The States and the people retain all powers that they DON’T specifically delegate to the federal government. Therefore, since secession is not mentioned in the Constitution, the states and the people RETAIN the natural right of secession.


95 posted on 05/13/2016 7:06:04 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: henkster
"Oh no, I meant Article VI, Sec. 3 Clause 1. It’s the Oaths clause. Every public official down to dog catcher is required to take the oath to uphold the Constitution. That means no state officer can take an act to have their state quit the Union without violating the oath. Therefore no state can legally seceed because there is no lawful authority to do so.

I guess that makes your stance a little clearer, but I still disagree. (First of all, Article VI only has one section but it does have 3 paragraphs).

Anyway, regarding your perspective, I don't think the Constitution says anything about States leaving the Union. That means that a State official could support secession without violating his/her oath (in my opinion).

97 posted on 05/13/2016 7:13:05 PM PDT by NaturalScience
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