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[Vanity] Could Trump winning be planned?

Posted on 05/08/2016 4:58:11 PM PDT by Jonty30

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You people are all WAY too harsh these days. I’ve been getting my share of trolls but you guys have got to lay off people.

If someone comes on with a question, or a theory, or even an observation how everyone stops kicking them in the shins?

Eh ? Whadya think about that ?

In response to the OP: It boggles my mind why someone would NOT want to run a successful, powerful country. These leaders doing whatever is necessary to cut us off at the knees are really a mystery to me.


61 posted on 05/08/2016 6:46:13 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Popman

Who said to never let a crisis go to waste?


62 posted on 05/08/2016 6:48:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

I believe Paul Begala coined that expression.


63 posted on 05/08/2016 6:54:01 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Santorum 2016)
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To: Envisioning

Trump, a business man, unlike the politicians, has everything to lose if the economy crashes....
I take his running as desperate move on his part to salvage his empire rather than watch the continued destruction brought on by th neocons.......

I hope he is successful in his endeavor.....


That is so true. Those who oppose him are looking to continuing their gravy train. If they lose the train it will be painful but they will have what they have already stolen from the taxpayers.

If Trump cannot right the ship of the economy and his business crumble due to foolish lefty policies, he will lose a lot of money that he actually invested and the work he put into building something. Also, there will be a lot more people unemployed that lose work in his businesses.

Who does Hillary have to support except her thighness, baby thighness and grandbaby thighness. She invested nothing, swindled us all and the thigh clan is set for life right now.


64 posted on 05/08/2016 7:05:47 PM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Jonty30

Oh good grief...this is Alex Jones type of bull sh*t!

Are you a “coast to coast” regular?


65 posted on 05/08/2016 7:08:01 PM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2016!)
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To: Jonty30

-——Who said to never let a crisis go to waste?-——

I will rephrase my post...

The same people who are trying desperately to stop Trump are secretly planning or plotting when they fail to stop him are going to blame him for the coming economic crash...

So why try to stop him ?

Haha... They aren’t that smart or not even close to it...


66 posted on 05/08/2016 7:16:08 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Jonty30

The entire reason for the illegal immigrant influx, letting the Sauds control our Middle East policy and selling our industry to China is because those foriegn countries bought our debt notes and also because the Feds need more revenue streams (taxpayers) to pay the debt interest. They thought the entire ridiculous house of debt could continue long enough to install a world government. Trump has frightened the foriegn countries cause he may just dump the whole rotten and corrupt deal. They were expecting Hillary the Great to be coronated. That is why all the foriegn contributions to the Clinton Foundation occurred.


67 posted on 05/08/2016 7:21:09 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Jonty30

Yes but not for the reasons you are stating.


68 posted on 05/08/2016 7:39:14 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Jonty30

Hillary Clinton deliberately evading IT security laws and information handling rules to avoid anything she typed being subpoenaed IS a real conspiracy.
Trump’s run, in a field of almost 20 contenders, is not.


69 posted on 05/08/2016 7:55:22 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Jonty30

Hanlon’s Razor would provide a more likely explanation.


70 posted on 05/08/2016 8:05:20 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Jonty30
All this talk about defaulting on the national debt is ridiculous. The debt is so large, it will never be paid off. I doubt is it will every be paid down significantly either.

But absolutely Trump is correct in trying to negotiate a discount on paying down our debt. It is good business. It does not reflect badly on the US. On the contrary, it shows that we've finally got a powerful negotiator in charge and not some idiot politician in charge who know nothing about negotiating a good deal for the US.

71 posted on 05/08/2016 8:27:05 PM PDT by HotHunt
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It was the mastermind of the left. Rosie O’Donnell. Without her nothing would have happened.

Yes, you got it right. It was Rosie O'Donnel and Whoopie Goldberg and the women of the view that were the masterminds. They are brainwashing their audience. Well considering the IQ level of their audience it would not take too much to brainwash that audience. As I keep saying, the dumbing down of America is working.

72 posted on 05/08/2016 9:04:48 PM PDT by seawolf101 (This)
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To: Disestablishmentarian
THIS IS NOT A DEFAULT . . . but it has some of the same effect.

How is offering to pay back a debt with anything less than the full amount not a default?

Regards,

73 posted on 05/08/2016 9:08:20 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Jonty30

No a default is not inevitable.

If we put Americans back to work again, we can reduce the debt and lower taxes.


74 posted on 05/08/2016 9:22:30 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Jonty30

If anything, I would have to say the opposite: now that it looks as though Trump will be the next President, the establishment will decide that this will be the time for the giant ponzi scheme to fail.


75 posted on 05/09/2016 2:27:56 AM PDT by Mr Radical
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To: Jonty30
Sigh - he won/is winning - get over it.

Some of you folks won't be happy unless Hillary gets to follow Obama in the WH.

Wake up, pull your head out and don't forget to wash behind your ears.....

76 posted on 05/09/2016 3:47:14 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Robert DeLong

“Now, may they secretly be rejoicing the outcome? If that were the case then #NeverTrump would have been formed, nor would they continue. In addition there would be immediate support for Trump from the likes of the Bushes, and Ryan.”

Assuming you meant “#NeverTrump wouldn’t have been formed”

Flawed logic. That is exactly what they would do. Look what
happened to Cruz when the RINO’s climbed on his train. If
they were pulling that sofisticated a con then:
“immediate support for Trump from the likes of the Bushes, and Ryan.” would be the last thing they would do.

Trump the conman is still plausible.


77 posted on 05/09/2016 4:43:10 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat
Assuming you meant “#NeverTrump wouldn’t have been formed”

Yep, that is what I meant.

Trump the conman is still plausible.

Still licking your wounds I see.

Flawed logic. That is exactly what they would do. Look what happened to Cruz when the RINO’s climbed on his train. If they were pulling that sofisticated a con then: “immediate support for Trump from the likes of the Bushes, and Ryan.” would be the last thing they would do

Flawed logic according to you. I think the whole premise of this thread is ridiculous. Just as your contention that the RINO support was spontaneous, and that Cruz didn't welcome them in with open arms. I suppose that Neil Bush bullied his way on to the Cruz campaign, or did he welcome them in with open arms? Of course the only reason either of them agreed to the relationship was to try and stop Trump. If you actually believe that the Republicans are actually sophisticated to that level, and that they knew it would succeed, then I would say it would be a first that I have ever seen them show that much creativity. But let's suppose that they did indeed target Ted to get him knocked out of the race, then throwing the nomination to Trump. Why play any games now? Why not just say we now support our nominee? Having Hillary become elected by continued division within our party, would ruin their well laid plans to have Trump take the hit.

78 posted on 05/09/2016 6:02:28 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: justa-hairyape
"...They thought the entire ridiculous house of debt could continue long enough to install a world government. ...

This is worthy of a thread of its' very own.

Few people are aware of this dynamic.

79 posted on 05/09/2016 6:23:49 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Robert DeLong

“Why play any games now? Why not just say we now support our nominee? Having Hillary become elected by continued division within our party, would ruin their well laid plans to have Trump take the hit.”

Sorry to have to point out the obvious but that would make it
possible for a third party candidate to move in or even Cruz
to get back in.
Besides it’s all just speculation anyway, Trump could very well be serious about all this. Like I said, “immediate support for Trump from the likes of the Bushes, and Ryan.” would be the last thing they would do.
Trump the conman is still plausible. Was Obama the Conman implausible?

“Still licking your wounds I see.”
Still an ass I see.


80 posted on 05/09/2016 9:48:41 AM PDT by Slambat
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