[WildHighlander57]

Fred Nerks wrote:

"That doesn't fit the dummy and the submarine scenario and the cast of thousands...

remember, the closer you get to the target, the heavier the flak will be...."

A couple more pics

Pilot didn't use a vest; neither did the person to the back and rear of him

[Fred Nerks]

[WildHighlander57]

Some pics not seen yet; looks like Ms Fuddy had trouble exiting the plane.... note the angle of the door:

Could she have been given a whack on the head by the door coming down?

[rx]

The person you're describing to the back and rear of the pilot is Marilyn Briley, who, at the time was wearing the buoyant electronics package that everyone else in the world but you three plus not-so-humblegunner will properly recognize as yet another piece of military diver gear conspicuously found at the scene. That image will be seen in post #526. That's why one doesn't see very much of her large buoyant-package life jacket above the water line. It got there by being extracted from the piece of black-and-yellow baggage. Now how convenient and unexpected is it that one would find a combo electronics package that doubles as a life vest in your "average " piece of passenger baggage? Hmmmm?

The orange metal tool(s) seen fore of the starboard wing from underwater are further evidence that everyone else will recognize as having been placed there by people that were not the hapless, unplanned-accident passengers.

The 10-foot long green object seen against the side of the plane just as it "coincidentally" was being otherwise inexplicably raised ever higher in the water could not have been debris blown by the wind because the wind was out of the east. The debris field was entirely to the west.