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If the circular firing squad continues, there will be a large number of voters in either the Trump or Cruz camp that will sit out the election and hand it to the 'Beast if their guy doesn't win.

That is unacceptable: we need EVERYBODY on our side to unite to have any hope of defeating THEM.

Most likely, Trump will get to 1237 before the convention: at this point, it would be a blessing. I supported Cruz and voted for him in the PA primary, but IN NO WAY will I withhold my vote from Trump if he becomes the nominee. I just hope more of get on board the #NeverHillary train now, and vow to support either one of our guys.

1 posted on 05/02/2016 2:30:43 PM PDT by bassmaner
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This has been very disturbing. Personal battles between the candidates can only help Hillary. Personal battles here only damage this forum.


86 posted on 05/02/2016 2:55:05 PM PDT by doug from upland
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For me, it was simply a matter of getting to know him. He has made me realize that he is first and foremost a lawyer, and he seeks wins the way lawyers do—through clever manipulation of language rather than on any factual basis.

It does not matter that his “win” in CO was technically by the rules: it looked bad and it reinforced my opinion that lawyers do not care about the truth as much as being clever when it comes to winning. Not everything that is technically legal is right or moral. The fact that he used that “win” to paint Trump supporters as stupid and incompetent only made it worse.

I do not, and never have, gratuitously insulted someone just because I happen to support someone else—and I do not think that most of the Trump supporters here have done that to Cruz. I do, however, point out exactly what I see the issues are.

Cruz behaves the way I have seen scammers behave before—for instance, with his slogan “TrusTED.” If a person can’t convince me to trust him without telling me over and over, then he probably is NOT trustworthy.

The bottom line is, we do not need another lawyer president. There is no way to convince me that another lawyer is going to be any different than the lawyers we’ve already had as president. We need someone else... someone with executive experience.


89 posted on 05/02/2016 2:56:31 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Why is Cruz still in the race when he has no voter approved path to the nomination?

Why has Cruz focused on grabbing delegates after the election rather than on grabbing voters before the election?

Why can’t Cruz answer a simple question about whether or not he’ll support Trump if he’s the nominee?

Answer those questions and you’ll have answered your own.


91 posted on 05/02/2016 2:56:55 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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DITTO


95 posted on 05/02/2016 2:58:09 PM PDT by maddogtiger
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To paraphrase Ronald Reagan: I didn’t turn on Ted Cruz; Ted Cruz turned on me.


97 posted on 05/02/2016 2:58:13 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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I was never big on Cruz. Getting elected in Texas as a hard-core conservative is not that impressive; trying doing that in a blue or purple state and then I might get impressed. Then he proceeded to wage a series of battles the conclusion was already determined to be an “L”, and then castigate his fellow Senators for failing to go along with it. Stupid. Then he called McConnell a liar on the Senate floor, based on an alleged private conversation between the two of them, which to me make me look askance not at McConnell but at him. If he got snookered by McConnell then he should’ve shut up and learnt a lesson, not whine in front of everyone like a big cry baby.

Then he decides based on that record of complete and total failure as a Senator to run for President, even though he’s not eligible. Then his dismissal of the citizenship issue boiled my blood; it was worse than the worst Daily Kos dismissals of the Obama eligibility issue.

It wasn’t long before his claim to any kind of anti-establishment credibility was absolutely shredded by Neal Bush on his finance team, his wife’s partnership at Goldman Sachs, the Goldman/Citi loans, etc., etc, etc.

But his actions since being mathematically eliminated have just taken him down a road in my mind where he’s basically as bad if not worse than any Democrat. Everything that he’s done since that point has served no purpose other than self-aggrandizement at the cost of giving the election to Hillary. He’s dead to me.


98 posted on 05/02/2016 2:58:22 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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Why has FR turned on Cruz?

Last year, TC's campaign snookered me into giving cold hard cash for them to waste on further fund-raising primarily from me again.

I didn't like being snookered so I single-handily turned FR against him and don't regret it.
99 posted on 05/02/2016 2:58:32 PM PDT by Resettozero
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Every Trump supporter I know recognizes that he is not perfect, and many have outright criticized certain things he’s said and done. That’s not seen with Cruz supporters. They present him as perfect, and for the longest time people who didn’t agree were accused of being liberals.

If Cruz supporters could view him more objectively and realistically it would be a big help. For example, I’ve taken valuable time to lay out a couple of Cruz’ more blatant lies. The reaction of his supporters is just sick. They rationalize, minimize, attack, change the subject, go full bore Alinsky, and on and on. Not one, ever, has conceded that Cruz does lie. Not one. Ever.

That approach actually hurts your candidate. People don’t trust you if you can look at clear cut, factual evidence and brush it aside.

Of course the biggest help of all would be for Cruz to stop lying. Given his MO so far, that’s unlikely.


102 posted on 05/02/2016 2:59:37 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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Gang of 8 - There was no magic “poison pill”. The only reason it failed is because Cantor lost. It passed the senate 68 - 32. I always accepted the “poison pill” excuse until I searched myself. We were that close to going over the edge. Amnesty.

TPA TPP - Worked with Ryan to draft legislation, selling out the American worker

Corker Amendment - Making it easier for Obama to bow to Iran

Trump Tax Returns - Demanded Trump release his returns. Why? What difference does it make. Cruz, the guy who wants to abolish the IRS

Sided with BLM rioters in Chicago. Really??

Ben Carson dropping out rumor in Iowa

I’m sure I could list much more. But we get the picture. Everything Cruz has done has been a charade. Sneaky underhanded to benefit Cruz - nobody else!!


107 posted on 05/02/2016 3:00:31 PM PDT by mouse1
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We accepted him as a senator because he is constitutionally eligible to be a senator. Cruz is not eligible for the presidency, therefore he left us when he declared his candidacy.


110 posted on 05/02/2016 3:02:13 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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Ted Cruz cares about Ted Cruz. Any man who won’t rush to help a woman the fall off a stage right in front of him won’t help the country. He is a sellout to the GOPe and a liar.


114 posted on 05/02/2016 3:03:09 PM PDT by teletech
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It’s nothing personal. Cruz’s support of the:

Corker Bill

Had me looking elsewhere.


115 posted on 05/02/2016 3:03:52 PM PDT by o2bfree (DNC = RNC :-)
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I have not turned on Cruz. I voted for him in the Missouri primary. I think Sen. Cruz is the most consistent, true, articulate, social and constitutional conservative in the race. On the whole, he represents my views on the issues the best.


116 posted on 05/02/2016 3:04:04 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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FR appears more interested in a win than they are interested in standing on principle.

FR has been blinded by something that appears too good to be true and has had the same wool that was pulled over Carson and Gingrich's eyes pulled over it's own eyes.

And then there are the Trump Trolls that seem to have their way on FR.

119 posted on 05/02/2016 3:05:26 PM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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Cruz has messed up, and Freepers noticed. Sue us.


121 posted on 05/02/2016 3:05:49 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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There is a practical reason for not supporting Cruz. He can’t win in the general.

This is not 1980. A doctrinaire conservative cannot get any purple states to secure the election against the Dems.

A populist with conservative leanings, i.e. Donald Trump, can win enough purple states and maybe even some blue states to beat the Dems. Trump is scooping up blue-collar dems and independents, voters who would never vote for Cruz.

Trump can beat Hillary. With Cruz, it’s unlikely.


122 posted on 05/02/2016 3:05:56 PM PDT by Signalman
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I bought Ted’s book. Right out of the gate he played dirty politics in IA. After that it was lies, half truths and misrepresentations continuing right up to today.

Add to that making the exact wrong decisions - using very shallow short term thinking. NO way do I want that in a president. I want a strategic out-of-the-box thinker.

Ted has been a HUGE disappointment.


124 posted on 05/02/2016 3:07:13 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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Exactly!! I too voted forCruz here in Texas ...I don’t despise or think him evil. The evil ones are The RNC elites. I will vote this election for whoever our nominate is and I’ll crawl through broken glass to vote to keep the evil vomit couple from hell outta the WH!!! Our country is in desperate need of unity among our party and I will pray for the Cruz family and the Trump family because they’ll need it in the coming hellish months ahead. I would rather pray for our candidates then curse them!


126 posted on 05/02/2016 3:07:59 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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Because Ted Cruz is a lying jerk.


135 posted on 05/02/2016 3:14:41 PM PDT by jimbo807
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I started out liking him, but the more I listened to him, the more I understood why so many people in his life don’t like him. He’s just not a likable person.


137 posted on 05/02/2016 3:14:46 PM PDT by Magnatron
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