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To: PapaBear3625
You can shout at the paper all you want, call it "racist!" and any other names that come to mind. The paper doesn't care. You either "get it", or you don't. Your answer is either correct, or it isn't. It makes no allowances for how "oppressed" you feel

It's easy to get pissed about this stuff, and I feel your pain.

But you're being unreasonable.

There are high schools in the US where the average IQ is 85. The AVERAGE.

The system we have created, or allowed to be created, says that every student who is not severely mentally ill or who does not die of homicide or a drug overdose CAN and SHOULD complete 12th grade and receive a high school diploma, and that when the number achieving this is less than 100%, it's because of bad teachers, inadequate resources, or the wrong curriculum.

People with IQs of 80-90 do not fail Algebra II or trigonometry because they feel oppressed. They do not fail because they accuse their teachers of racism.

They fail because their schooling should have ended after fifth or sixth grade. They are bit players in a macabre morality play, scripted by white wannabe saviors who believe that, if only badwhites are stigmatized and goodwhites make up for imaginary "racism", then the five year plan will be fullfilled.

The systematic accusation that blacks are failing because the educational system is racist is correct, after a fashion. Except the racism that the system stinks to high heaven with is the racism of goodwhites who lack understanding, or who are afraid to face, the consequences of the Frankenstein monster that THEY have created.

The students with IQs of 80-90 who go to high school every day and are enrolled in math and science classes where they don't belong and in which they cannot achieve are not the cause of systemic failure - they are the victims of a failing social experiment which, since it cannot be modified is taking all American schools down with it.

101 posted on 05/01/2016 1:33:11 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Cruz never could have outfought Trump. I never knew, until this day, that it was Romney all along.)
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To: Jim Noble

“The students with IQs of 80-90 who go to high school every day and are enrolled in math and science classes where they don’t belong and in which they cannot achieve are not the cause of systemic failure - they are the victims of a failing social experiment which, since it cannot be modified is taking all American schools down with it. “

I’ve wondered about this too. I went to high school with a mechanically brilliant kid. He was building and repairing very high-end European bicycles when he was in high school - and beyond arithmetic, he was completely hopeless. I’m sure he achieved success with an automotive career after his dad sent him to a trade school after high school. What if he was “forced” to do things that he stunk at in college. For that matter, what if I was actually “graded” in PE. That would have been auto-flunk.


136 posted on 05/01/2016 3:28:48 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: Jim Noble

I question the IQ assigned to a fair number of the people in the sort of schools you’re talking about. I was born, raised and worked in a dominantly Mexican American mining town. The kids I went to school with knew they had a relatively well paying job if they kept their nose clean and suffered through high school. Now in a mine there are strong back, weak mind jobs. Then there are a lot of mining and craft skills that require brains along with brawn. You can imagine the need for engineers, skilled operators and mechanical designers. A lot of the people what worked themselves into positions requiring math, etc acquired their skills as “smokestack engineers”.

The same kid who presented himself as a moron in high school came forth when it was in their interest. That said, they did benefit from math, painfully taught to them. Basic literacy so so.


141 posted on 05/01/2016 4:03:43 PM PDT by JimSEA
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