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To: DiogenesLamp
The fact that slave owner's signed the Declaration doesn't negate the fact that the idea that all men were created equal wasn't considered a universal truth.

But it was the later South who rejected the idea of natural rights (which you claim they are claiming) saying that the Declaration was only for White men.

The Founding Father's for the most part hated slavery and had every intention of ending it.

That is why they had no problem with acknowledging the truth of the Declaration of Independence.

80 posted on 04/28/2016 7:05:54 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The fact that slave owner's signed the Declaration doesn't negate the fact that the idea that all men were created equal wasn't considered a universal truth.

So they kept them in slavery? That is a non-sequitur. Obviously they didn't accept this concept as a "Universal Truth" in 1776.

But it was the later South who rejected the idea of natural rights (which you claim they are claiming) saying that the Declaration was only for White men.

You don't seem to be grasping the fact that this is exactly what the Founders believed in 1776. Again, they didn't let any of their slaves go.

The Founding Father's for the most part hated slavery and had every intention of ending it.

No they didn't. Jefferson never let his slaves go. Washington made provisions for manumission of his slaves upon his death, but while he was alive, he kept them. Stop trying to force history to conform to what you want to believe.

That is why they had no problem with acknowledging the truth of the Declaration of Independence.

No they didn't, but the person who's having a problem with acknowledging the truth of the Declaration of Independence is this person who is arguing in 2016 that it applied to slaves.

No it didn't, and the evidence of this is so vast, you have to be a deluded kook to believe otherwise. The Declaration was *MADE* to apply to slaves later, (Starting in Massachusetts), but at the time it was written, it most certainly was not intended to do so.

Now if you chose to live on Gumdrop mountain and ride your Unicorn back and forth through the Cotton candy forest to the Chocolate river, I can't stop you, but if you want to be taken for a rational person, you need to stop pushing a made up fantasy as reality.

88 posted on 04/29/2016 6:11:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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