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To: DiogenesLamp
No, the South didn't have a right to leave.

You have to show just cause for doing so.

And you can't grasp the fact that the South was still represented in Congress and in the Senate.

In fact, they were overrepresented, due to the 3.5 rule where Blacks were counted as part of the population for purposes of representation.

No one controlled anything, the South was fairly represented.

They didn't attempt to leave the Union over the Tariff issue, but over the slave expansion issue.

Your view of economic history is greatly lacking.

The South had joined the Union and was responsible for obeying it's requirements.

The South wasn't letting it's slaves go, and track those down who had escaped and forced them to return, no matter where they resided in the North.

You are advocating anarchy, and no nation can survive the idea that anyone can leave on any whim.

The Confederate States had they been successful would not allowed any of their States just to leave when they felt like it.

Now, stop posting your idiotic nonsense to me.

79 posted on 04/28/2016 7:01:13 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, the South didn't have a right to leave.

You have to show just cause for doing so.

You don't have to show any "Cause" to leave. The idea itself is ridiculous. What sort of "Cause" is going to convince your oppressors that they should let you go?

When the colonists showed their list of grievances to the King, he simply ignored them. He obviously didn't agree that any of them were sufficient to allow them to leave. Showing "Cause" is pointless when someone doesn't want you to leave. No "Cause" that you show, will every be sufficient in the minds of your oppressors.

Are you a F***ing idiot or something? Tell me what "Cause" a wife can show to an abusive husband that will make him say, "Oh well then, since you've proven i'm not fit to be your husband, I guess i'll just let you go." What he will do is beat her for daring to suggest she had a right to leave him.

Once again, are you a F***ing idiot?

NO "CAUSE" WILL BE ACCEPTED AS GOOD ENOUGH TO SATISFY THE OPPRESSORS. The very idea that your oppressors should get to decide whether your reasons for wanting to leave them are good enough is nonsensical.

Humans have a Natural Law right to leave. You obviously see this NATURAL LAW right in the case of slaves, yet you are utterly blind to the exact same concept as applied to the Southern States.

Now, stop posting your idiotic nonsense to me.:

Why should I? You have to show CAUSE, why I should let you go!

Show Cause! Show Cause! Show Cause!

Don't be a hypocrite. You can't leave until you show cause why I should let you leave! Show Cause! Show Cause!

I can already tell you that none of your reasons will be accepted by me, but since you insist that "Cause" must justify me letting you go, I demand you SHOW CAUSE!

Stop trying to use your NATURAL LAW right to leave. Your position is that there is no such natural right, so therefore you must stay and put up with me.

87 posted on 04/29/2016 6:01:52 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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