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To: Pelham

And in what EFFECTIVE way did the Soviet Union help us defeat Japan? They played us for fools! The Soviet Union intercepted the message to Washington which confirmed their surrender. It was delayed and the Soviets moved into the picture at the veritable LAST MINUTE! WE were the suckers.
The Atomic Bomb worked at White Sands. Why wouldn’t it work at Hiroshima? OR are you suggesting the Japanese people wouldn’t have surrendered even after suffering the bomb’s devastation? Perhaps that was MacArthur’s thinking as he was all for invasion of the Japanese mainland.
Obviously, Truman’s decision to drop the bomb saved millions of lives.
Roosevelt’s turn toward Stalin and away from Churchill is one of the reasons I find him disgusting.
You are correct on the Tehran Conference, but there could and should have been changes made. As I said, we were played for suckers. The biggest sucker play was creating the United Nations.


51 posted on 04/19/2016 1:45:37 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Japan didn’t surrender until several days after the atomic bombs. Militarist fanatics among them were willing to have everyone die in a glorious fight for the homeland. They were overruled by Hirohito and those who believed that Japan could surrender without losing face. The bombs gave them cover.

If Japan had not surrendered, estimated US casualties for the first 90 days alone of Operation Downfall were over a half million. The American casualty estimates for fully conquering the home islands ranged from 2 to 4 million.

No one wanted to do that alone if we could share the burden.


52 posted on 04/19/2016 6:04:22 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: Mollypitcher1

“They played us for fools!”

All day every day, right up until they collapsed.

And now, again, with Putin and the thousands of Russian agents in our government.


56 posted on 04/20/2016 3:58:43 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Mollypitcher1
"You are correct on the Tehran Conference, but there could and should have been changes made. As I said, we were played for suckers. The biggest sucker play was creating the United Nations."

If I had been Eisenhower When Patton had said give me and army and I will give you a war with Uncle Joe I would have smiled at Patton and shook my finger at him and said don't you dare, then told him I am going to be out of contact for awhile here is your Third Army back George now (wink) stay out of trouble.

58 posted on 04/20/2016 4:04:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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