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Trump Needs To Enroll In "Delegates 101"
American Thinker ^ | April 13, 2016 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 04/13/2016 11:01:43 AM PDT by raptor22

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To: tennmountainman

Denial is such an ugly thing. The Trump campaign didn’t even put forth an effort to secure Colorado, yet after the fact, you blame Cruz for it. Amazing.


41 posted on 04/13/2016 11:53:41 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: AndyTheBear

[[It is good to care about things. But it is not good to obsess about one thing all the time.]]

Hmm,. Are you this passiionate about opposition to constant obsessive reports by sites like breitbart, gatewaypundit, hotair, druge etc who constantly run anti-cruz articles? Haven’t seen you mention them before


42 posted on 04/13/2016 11:56:55 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: raptor22; mkjessup

Some more self-pimping of blogs.


43 posted on 04/13/2016 11:57:45 AM PDT by PJBankard (Political Correctness has killed America. It is time America is resurrected.)
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To: Durbin

I occasionally read these threads, and I just happen to notice that you like to use the word “whine” every time you mention Trump. And I have to notice because you do it so much.

Are you just that stupid, or boring, or completely lacking in imagination, or dumb enough to think that it reflects some kind of genius IQ? Do you somehow think you are superior to Trump, or by posting that, that we all think you are superior to Trump?


44 posted on 04/13/2016 11:58:56 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

[[I occasionally read these threads, and I just happen to notice that you like to use the word “whine” every time you mention Trump. And I have to notice because you do it so much.]]

Hmmm- let’s comapre- Trump can’t talk about Cruz without saying “Lyin Ted”

pot calling kettle black, and all that

[[Are you just that stupid, or boring, or completely lacking in imagination, or dumb enough to think that it reflects some kind of genius IQ?]]

I don’t believe the poster had an intention of presenting an observation of obvious fact as having some kind of ‘genius IQ’- not sure how you came to the conclusion he did?


45 posted on 04/13/2016 12:05:37 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: humblegunner

As annoying as the Cruz crew posts on FR are, they pale in comparison to your years-long fixation with blogs and the people who write them. It’s like autism planet every time you get on a thread


46 posted on 04/13/2016 12:07:31 PM PDT by SquarePants (Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time)
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To: Bob434
I am not passionate about bashing American Thinker. Nor for any source that does nothing but bash one side or the other.

I frankly don't like the flame wars and bashing from either camp. I support Trump but I don't think that Cruz supporters are bad people. I think Cruz is flawed but I don't think he is as horrible as what the left is offering.

I don't think the people getting passionate and bashing each other on FR are bad people. I think its gotten a bit nasty, and that is sad, and trying to make the point that its fine to disagree, but there is more to life.

47 posted on 04/13/2016 12:09:09 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: SquarePants
your years-long fixation with blogs and the people who write them

No points for being consistent?

It’s like autism planet every time you get on a thread

Gosh, I'd best work on that.

48 posted on 04/13/2016 12:14:08 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Hoodat

I’m not in denial.

I predict Cruz will pay a big price for participating in this rigged outcome.

How that price manifest itself, we will have to wait and see.


49 posted on 04/13/2016 12:14:27 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: tennmountainman
I predict Cruz will pay a big price for participating in this rigged outcome.

Rigged? How so? The Cruz campaign has worked their butts off in Colorado since December while Trump didn't appoint someone to secure delegates until three weeks AFTER the Colorado caucuses. How was it rigged?

50 posted on 04/13/2016 12:19:25 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: PJBankard

By the way, if you tell him to take you off his pimp, er, I mean, ping list, he writes you an hysteric private message.


51 posted on 04/13/2016 12:25:02 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: AndyTheBear

[[I think its gotten a bit nasty,]]

A bit nasty? Beign passionate is oen hting- but consistent peddling rumor and innuendo about cruz and callign cruz and his supporters ‘worthless pieces of @#$%@’ and some of the crap coming out of the mouths of trump supporters is more than being passionate- and it goes to character- Maybe you haven’t kept aprise of the crap beign said on FR abotu cruz supporters and Cruz and heidi etc- but I don’t htink it reflects a ‘good character’ in soem folks

Yep- soem cruz supporters aren’t innocent either, but the ratio is far less- Not trying to excuse those hwo supprot cruz and level such nasty remarks, but the ‘passion’ by many trump supporters crosses a lien of decency-

[[and trying to make the point that its fine to disagree, but there is more to life.]]

I do appreciate that- I’ve tried to do the same- but many want nothing of it- unfortunately, and FR is beginning to sound a lot like Democratic underground and huffington post lately- unfortunately


52 posted on 04/13/2016 12:25:27 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: scooby321

I guess that’s why the genius known as Manafort sent out emails to Washington state delegates to remind them to vote. Only problem was he sent them to Washington, DC. A real braintrust twixt him and Trump.


53 posted on 04/13/2016 12:27:24 PM PDT by AnnGora
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To: miss marmelstein

I’m sorry. I must be lucky because he never pings me.


54 posted on 04/13/2016 12:27:56 PM PDT by PJBankard (Political Correctness has killed America. It is time America is resurrected.)
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55 posted on 04/13/2016 12:30:51 PM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken or facebook.com/danielsobieski)
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To: PJBankard

Now that you’ve insulted him, he will probably add you. He’s more troll than journalist. And a thin-skinned one to boot!


56 posted on 04/13/2016 12:31:18 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: Hoodat

You can defend all you want.

Cruz will pay a price, just like he paid a price for siding with the Chicago
thugs.

He lost Missouri because of it. Just know this.
A Backlash is coming Cruz’s way.


57 posted on 04/13/2016 12:34:47 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: Bob434

What I posted to Durbin does not concern you.


58 posted on 04/13/2016 12:42:23 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Bob434
I don't appreciate the peddling of rumors about alleged affairs, and I don't think tabloids are reliable sources, even if they sometimes get a story right, they certainly get some wrong.

On my view the Cruz side of this flap over rules keeps making the same logical error:

For example, let us say there is some rule A, and I think the rule is unfair. If I complain that rule A is unfair, it is non sequitur to say, "but it's the rule".

Now one could say "hey you should have complained at another time before you ran afoul of the rule". That may be prudent advice. But it is still avoiding the question of whether rule A is fair.

Now one can say "Hey dummy, you are so incompetent because you don't know how to take advantage of the rules". Again this may be a less charitable expression of good advice, but it is still avoiding the question of whether the rule A is fair.

One can say "That is the way it has traditionally been done". This may be true, but it is still avoiding the question of whether rule A is fair.

One can say "The party in each state is free to make whatever rules they like". That may be true. A rule can be legitimately put in place by those entrusted with the power to do so. This however does not make the rule fair and beyond reproach by people making a moral argument that the rule is unjust.

Having delegates hostile to the person who they were elected to support is simply not fair to the voters who elected the delegate. It is particularly unfair to the voters if the ballot does not have the name of the delegate nor anything about the delegate, but only about the candidate they are voting for the delegate to represent. It is very close to using the principle of "its not the people who vote, but those that count the votes".

Now I can understand why Cruz supporters are defensive and throw up the non sequiturs. It does not mean they are bad people. Its just they want to feel justified and avoid the full moral weight of this particular issue. I can understand Trump supporters becoming very angry at them wanting to avoid it though. It does not justify, nor is it prudent for Trump supporters to bash Cruz supporters over this. I think it better to try to talk reason.

59 posted on 04/13/2016 12:57:59 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: odawg

Well, if you want, I can describe his orange skin color instead.


60 posted on 04/13/2016 1:10:49 PM PDT by Durbin
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