Posted on 04/02/2016 8:31:40 AM PDT by samtheman
something doesn’t make sense.
I added a large commercial refrig and a commercial ice machine to my home awhile back and didn’t notice any change at all in my bill.
How can charging a battery that’s probably only been depleted 10% at most cost what you are saying?
And I honestly dont give a crap about coal powered plants. For me its the bottom line of will this save me money.
Bless you heart.
Solar is good stuff, the costs are simply too high.
You're a Trump guy right? Why are you running down an American Industialist who created a big manufacturing company and is producing highly technical and inovative cars here in America. Isn't this what you are supposed to want?
I just sold all but a handful of my shares for a tidy profit this week, but thanks for the investment advice.
And I’m not sure where you got the impression that I think Tesla cars are “green”. I merely pointed out that you were wrong to assume that a customer was likely to receive a faulty pack in the (for all intents and purposes imaginary) battery swap program.
And of course, once again you spout an imaginary fact about the battery packs. The replacement cost has been clearly set by Tesla.
How much does it cost to replace a Tesla battery?
In the first 8 years, barring misuse or accident, replacement is FREE.
A separate battery replacement guarantee takes effect after the eighth year at a cost of US$10,000 for the 60 kWh battery and US$12,000 for the 85 kWh battery.
You are no doubt correct that the cost to produce that battery pack is currently larger than the amount Tesla will charge. However, the cost curve is downward, and real world customer experience indicates the batteries last far longer than anticipated during normal usage. Time will tell how much Tesla loses on battery replacements in the long run, but that’s really up to them and their shareholders to worry about, as they clearly defined the financial risk to the customer.
If you don’t want a Tesla, don’t buy one. I won’t be buying one myself, I just have a pet peeve with people who bad mouth companies that create American jobs using false information.
Why are you running down an American Industialist who created a big manufacturing company and is producing highly technical and inovative cars here in America. Isn’t this what you are supposed to want?
Secondly, I only said I am not impressed, I am not running anyone down. Anyone who wants to buy this, fine.
Thirdly, you talk as if there are no environmentalists in the world pattering a constant stream of propaganda about how evil fossil fuels are and then promoting electric cars as if electricity is somehow not related to fossil fuels. That was my only point.
That's not me. That's Tesla's claim as they were able to get their models listed as those available for the $7,500 federal income tax credit for clean energy vehicles. It's on their web site, if you want to check.
Bottom line is the rest of us are paying for those who utilize this scam.
We’re $.22 summer and $.37 winter. Fossil fuel is LP or oil, no NG no pipeline. We don’t need AC though.
gasoline is always the target of liberals in government.
the recycling of this thing with all the batteries and whatnot is an ecological nightmare
There are a lot of advantages to an electric car. We have an almost unlimited amount of natural gas to use to produce electricity if we only would. I drive less than 20 miles back & forth to work, so that would last me ten days. I would be a little nervous about taking long road trips, but around town they would be good.
We spend more money subsidizing ethanol which costs more money and energy to produce than it produces. It also shortens the life of engines.
nd at the end of that 300 miles, it only takes me a few minutes to top off the tank, and I’m ready to go again.
“LENR is a silly joke on the ignorant and played out by scam artists like Rossi.”
Sure, the ignorant like those at MIT and NASA for instance...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMx1mpcokBk
But, regardless of that...
“No nuclear plants are in the work and I highly doubt any will be built in the next 30 years.”
Well, whatever tiny credibility you may have around here just imploded...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_C._Summer_Nuclear_Generating_Station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogtle_Electric_Generating_Plant
Those alone represent four reactors for a total of over 4 GW of electricity generation... All expected to come online by 2020.
“Solar has hit chemical limits and no new discoveries are expected.”
Also nonsense. The best solar cells are close to theoretical limitations, but discoveries making worthwhile solar cells much less expensive are still quite possible. There’s not a lot of downside in roofing your house with something that will defray your electricity costs by a lot if it’s inexpensive enough.
You remind me of those who said in times past “Man will never fly!” or “Space travel is impossible!”. The future holds great discoveries beyond your imagination.
Just another toy for the coastal rich to use to go to Starbucks to share the gang condemnation of Donald Trump.
Because you’re prejudiced and applying standards to the car that other people aren’t.
They should be correctly referred to as coal and natural gas powered cars.
Why all the hostility towards this car? I see nothing wrong with advancing technology forward. Sure, the gas powered cars are more efficient today and likely better for the environment. But technology is always improving. So a range of 230 miles today could be 500 plus miles later. A charging time of hours today could be minutes eventually. Let the early adopters buy this car and give Tesla an opportunity to improve on future models.
What is not alright with me is subsidies, hidden or otherwise.
Anyway, you do make good points about early adopters promoting growth of a technology... as long as it is not subsidized.
LFTR, aka Liquid Florine ( cooled ) Thorium Reactors
Anxious to get the rebate provided not by the manufacturer but by the rest of us taxpayers.
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