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1 posted on 04/01/2016 8:41:50 AM PDT by Jack Black
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Ted Cruz supporters at this point are voting for the GOP Establishment to Choose the nominee.

Some delegates are assigned by the local party. These delegates would likely be loyal to the GOPe after the first round of voting.

The other delegates are actually picked by the candidate and they should be loyal to the candidate after the first round of voting.

I don't know the percentage of delegates that are candidate picked and that are GOPe picked. It varies based on state.

Without that information at this point, I can't come to the conclusion that the establishment will win a contested convention.

53 posted on 04/01/2016 9:24:29 AM PDT by FreeReign
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Cruz should take the hint from Rove. If there is no nominee going into the convention, the convention won’t select Cruz or Trump. That ‘new face’ comment from Rove was a warning shot to Cruz.

The problem is that the GOPestablishment don’t really care if they lose to Hillary. As many of them have said, they would rather lose to Hillary than have Trump or Cruz as their nominee.


57 posted on 04/01/2016 9:27:14 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Exactly,
Cruz will NEVER be the candidate unless the GOP-e decides that Loosing big in 2016 will keep them in power.


66 posted on 04/01/2016 9:36:18 AM PDT by Zathras
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The Republican nominee will Cruz, Trump or Kasich. Choosing a standard-bearer who has not campaigned all the way through the primaries would be unacceptable to the GOP’s rank and file.


71 posted on 04/01/2016 9:41:13 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Yes, I agree with that assessment. I wish it were not so but there it is.


72 posted on 04/01/2016 9:41:58 AM PDT by protest1
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On the first round the delegates are allowed to abstain from voting.

So all bets are off now.

My guess is the next Potus has already been chosen and the FBI has been told to leave her alone.

What I am wondering about now is how far it could go from riots to complete anarchy as I know the Bernie folk are gonna be super angry too.


77 posted on 04/01/2016 9:48:21 AM PDT by MarMema (2016 - Trump or Goldman Sachs)
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My lord, the Trumpkins have become whiny! Look, all the Trumpkins like to brag about what a great dealmaker Trump is, and how all he does is "win". So okay. Here is his chance to prove it. Stop whining about life being unfair, and show that he can actually bring the party together to support him as the nominee. And he is not going to do that with threats of riots or of his people staying home if he doesn't get the nomination with only a plurality. He will have to persuade the majority of the party that he is actually a Republican that will stand for and fight for the principles the party espouses, and that he has the discipline and temperament to not only win the election, but also to protect and defend the nation is he were to win.

It is not up to the supporters of other candidates to "fall in line" - it is up to Trump to persuade them he is worthy of their support. Up until now, he has been failing miserably at that challenge.

78 posted on 04/01/2016 9:48:28 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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Cruz is delusional to think he won’t be cast aside at the convention.

He may have also been threatened.

1. Ted’s health insurance is via his wife’s job at Goldman Sachs. She’s the money maker in the family.

2. He needs donations. The establishment could primary Ted and knock him out of a job.

3. They might have details on the cheating scandal to hold over him.


85 posted on 04/01/2016 9:55:22 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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Cruz and Kasich are both tools, they know it, but they both don’t mind being used to manipulate the race for the establishment. Of the two, Kasich is the most likely real choice of the establishment, but Cruz, for all his talk of being an “outsider” is really an insider. They’ll pick Cruz over Trump, because they know that he’ll play ball with them, whereas they suspect that Trump would be less easily controlled.


89 posted on 04/01/2016 9:58:39 AM PDT by euram
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So how about this scenario - Rubio has not released his delegates, so still controls them for the first ballot. Suppose Trump and Rubio were to strike a deal, with Trump offering Rubio VP for his support on the first ballot.

If Trump has 1066 delegates or more, but falls short of the 1237, Trump plus Rubio delegates puts Trump over the top. Their combined delegate strength would also put them in control of any rules changes at the convention, blocking establishment attempts to name their own choice.


91 posted on 04/01/2016 10:01:11 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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If Trump drops out and Cruz gets the rest of the delegates, then the GOPe doesn't get to pick anything.
Will be interesting to see what, if any, responses this gathers...probably not 'why didn't I think of that? Donald, drop out and hose the GOPe big time!'...
106 posted on 04/01/2016 10:39:50 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (FreeRepublic will rise from the trashes!)
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Nope, I am voting from Cruz. I have liked him from the beginning, but it took me a while to settle on him as my choice. I needed to see how it would play out with all the other candidates. Cruz is getting my vote in the Washington State primary and he will get my vote if he wins the nomination. Trump will never get my vote.


108 posted on 04/01/2016 10:49:54 AM PDT by CityCenter (Suz for Cruz)
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I call BS. As someone who supported and voted for Tedzu, I am looking at supporting Trump. I actually have gotten rather ticked off at some of Cruz’s antics (like agreeing with the lamestream media that Trump Supporters are violent, when in fact it is the Democrat Rioters/Protesters that are causing problems.) So I would say I’ve not lost Cruz, Cruz lost me.


112 posted on 04/01/2016 11:02:54 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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Cruz supporters are certainly voting for a Canadian.... or a Cuban.... Certainly not for a natural born citizen.

But hey, he’s our guy so screw the founding fathers.... they didnt know crap anyway!


122 posted on 04/01/2016 11:51:12 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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