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To: huldah1776
“NATO is costing us a fortune, and yes, we’re protecting Europe with NATO, but we’re spending a lot of money.”

“Not surprisingly, Vladimir Putin also wants NATO to go away.”

Two totally different statements that have nothing to do with the other, unless you want to leave out the rest of what Trump said....for some reason.

He also stated that the NATO members need to step up and do more that they rely on us too much.....but including that wouldn't fit your agenda now, would it?

That's the problem with zealots on wither side, they star becoming disingenuous to bolster their arguments...aka, lying.

Might help if Europe quit inviting in the enemy too...but that's just me.

77 posted on 03/22/2016 7:14:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Are we doing any anti-terrorist fighting in Europe? Nope. The threat is Putin if anyone really thinks that is a threat.

I have no agenda except to vote 100% pro-life. Not even DT will stop the wrath of God unless he signs a law written by congress making all abortion illegal. The Biblical consequence for national child sacrifice is invasion and conquest.


80 posted on 03/22/2016 7:21:07 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I was wondering what the population/GDP was for NATO but came across a government blog article that was hacked in parts but the good parts are still there...

“According to a number of analysts, including the last two U.S. Secretaries of Defense, America’s relations with its partners within the NATO alliance are nearing crisis. In June 2011, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates warned that NATO faces “a dim if not dismal future” and “irrelevance” as America’s allies remain “unwilling to devote the necessary resources or make the necessary changes to be serious and capable partners in their own defense.” The following October, Gates’ successor, Leon Panetta, stated that “we are at a critical moment for our defense partnership,” and he implored America’s allies to increase their defense spending to ensure that NATO remained “relevant.”

While irritation by American leaders toward their European allies over free riding and related calls for Europeans to increase their share of military spending are not new, European NATO countries’ defense expenditures—both relative to the United States and as a percentage of GDP—are at historically low proportions. For most of the Cold War, America accounted for 50 percent of total NATO military spending. That figure is 75 percent today. According to official NATO figures, only three of NATO’s 28 members—Britain (2.6), Greece (2.1), and the U.S. (4.8)—currently spend the agreed two percent of GDP on defense.

Low levels of defense spending are already having major effects on military effectiveness. In the 2011 campaign to topple Muammar Qaddafi’s government in Libya, the Europeans lacked the weaponry, as well as the reconnaissance, intelligence, heavy airlift, and refueling equipment necessary to defeat a minor power. As Gates put it, “the mightiest military alliance in history is only eleven weeks into an operation against a poorly armed regime in a sparsely populated country—yet many allies are beginning to run short of munitions, requiring the U.S., once more, to make up the difference.”

http://gt2030.com/2012/08/01/population-aging-and-the-future-of-nato/

Maybe DT IS listening to someone.


93 posted on 03/22/2016 7:37:52 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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