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To: catfish1957

No, I don’t. But my cousin does and he traced us back to English Jews from Holland originally.

If any of you are interested, there are several brilliant groups dedicated to English medieval history, Richard the Third, on Facebook. Annette Carson, who wrote the best book on Richard in the last 50 years, is a member. She was also a part of the Finding Richard project.


91 posted on 03/23/2016 4:56:37 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: miss marmelstein
Some who really like this area of heritage might like to join the Plantagenet Society if qualified

Interesting, is though, through my own and other's informal research, I have found 100's of ties back to Welsh, English, and Scottish Royalty.

Seemed far fetched, until I realized that this is probably the case for most of us. The poor prior to the 1700's were continuous fodder for wars, disease, starvation, etc. The non-direct kin of nobility filtered down into the "middle class" continuously, in a sad but true form of natural selection.

With that said, getting into the Plantagenet Society is not easy to get into to. One of the best known genealogist in the country G. B. Roberts has what is considered to be the reference guide to those who are eligible. Roberts acknowledges that there are significant amount of people who have a Royal Blood Line, but as in any other heraldic society, proof is needed. In lies the problem. Roberts states that there are only 600 ancestral American immigrants that have the absolute documentation of proof. (The list does grow slowly has his original guide was RD 500, and now RD 600) And in my case, only 3 of the 600 are ancestors of mine.

I am not a PSmember, as SAR is enough for me at this point.

93 posted on 03/23/2016 5:19:33 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: miss marmelstein

I just want to say that your comments on this thread re: Richard III have been absolutely fascinating. It is obvious that you’ve spent a great deal of time studying Richard and British medieval history...


100 posted on 03/23/2016 10:29:50 AM PDT by nutmeg (Anti-Trump disrupters = FASCISTS)
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