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2016 F1 Grand Prix Running Live Thread
3/17/2016 | Chode

Posted on 03/17/2016 7:38:17 PM PDT by Chode

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To: Chode; al_c; arbitrary.squid; arderkrag; atc23; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; biff; bobby.223; bobt7818; ...

spoiler alert.....

Haas F1 finishes sixth!!!

Romain Grosjean’s sixth place ensured Haas became the first brand-new team to score points on their Grand Prix debut since Mika Salo finished sixth for Toyota in 2002. Haas are also the first American team to score points since the similarly named (but completely unaffiliated) Team Haas finished sixth with Alan Jones at Monza in 1986. Worth noting that Grosjean only finished in the top six once last season with Lotus…

https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/features/2016/3/melbourne-stats-—four-in-a-row-for-rosberg—haas-emulate-toyota.html


41 posted on 03/20/2016 6:21:44 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America

I think Haas’ plan of how to create a new F1 team will be the new model. Maybe even McLaren could follow for 2017......... ;)


42 posted on 03/20/2016 7:26:27 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: God luvs America

Gene Haas looks like such a low key guy, almost like he’s dazzled just to be in the middle of all this.


43 posted on 03/20/2016 9:45:14 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: henkster

Watching the shrapnel cloud of carbon fiber is amazing.


44 posted on 03/20/2016 9:45:57 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Chode

Just got an LG 55inch OLED.
OMG makes my 2008 Sony look like a tube type set.
I may never leave the family room except to pee during race season.


45 posted on 03/20/2016 9:47:56 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Chode

Race results - 2016 Australian Formula 1 Grand Prix
Pos. Driver Team Time
1. N. Rosberg Mercedes 1:48:15.565
2. L. Hamilton Mercedes +8.606
3. S. Vettel Ferrari +9.643 +1.037
4. D. Ricciardo Red Bull +34.330 +24.687
5. F. Massa Williams +58.979 +24.649
6. R. Grosjean Haas +1:12.081 +13.102
7. N. Hulkenberg Force India +1:14.199 +2.118
8. V. Bottas Williams +1:15.153 +0.954
9. C. Sainz Jr. Toro Rosso +1:15.680 +0.527
10. M. Verstappen Toro Rosso +1:16.833 +1.153
11. J. Palmer Renault +1:23.399 +6.566
12. K. Magnussen Renault +1:25.606 +2.207
13. S. Perez Force India +1:31.699 +6.093
14. J. Button McLaren +1 Lap
15. F. Nasr Sauber +1 Lap
16. P. Wehrlein Manor +1 Lap
Did not finish
17. M. Ericsson Sauber +19 Laps
18. K. Raikkonen Ferrari +36 Laps
19. R. Haryanto Manor +40 Laps
20. F. Alonso McLaren +41 Laps
21. E. Gutiérrez Haas +41 Laps
22. D. Kvyat Red Bull +57 Laps


46 posted on 03/20/2016 10:31:22 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: nascarnation
coool.. with the volume turned up to 11, all that's needed now is smell-o-vision and it's just like being there 8^)
47 posted on 03/20/2016 11:04:34 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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LOL!!!


48 posted on 03/20/2016 11:15:00 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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To: Chode

Great Job Team Hass!!!

Despite the attempt to Torpedo Team Hass by the rest of the Grid this week end.

First the T-Bone in the Pits and then the crash in the Race.


49 posted on 03/20/2016 12:05:10 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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and sixth is a respectable finish too let alone for their shakedown race
50 posted on 03/20/2016 12:11:46 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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A lot of that 6th place finish was taking advantage of the red flag from their teammate’s crash. Grosjean never actually pitted, and was milking those tyres for all they were worth by the end of the race. Looking at the train stacked up behind him, my guess is that under normal race conditions you were probably looking at 11th or 12th.

Even so, that’s not a bad finish, and when presented with the chance, they made a brilliant move and the veteran driver’s skills paid off to make a decent finish for a starting team into a very good one. So, I’m not complaining, it’s actually a compliment. This team’s race strategy is far more mature than you would expect.


51 posted on 03/20/2016 1:44:26 PM PDT by henkster
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To: Chode

Another “exciting” year of F1 with Mercedes taking 1st and 2nd.

Like deja vu all over again. Why can’t they make it more competitive ??


52 posted on 03/20/2016 2:56:42 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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seems like most things they try either suck or backfire on them

i still say dump the green crap and lets go racing

53 posted on 03/20/2016 4:58:58 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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“i still say dump the green crap and lets go racing “

It looks like they are all in for hybrid technology for power.

Saw a Porsche Panamera today which is “hybrid” meaning a V6 and an electric motor.

Given VW Group’s racing experience, it can be said they migrate race developed technology to consumer vehicles.


54 posted on 03/20/2016 8:04:09 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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problem is, it makes them much more costly and adds another layer of things to fail/go wrong
55 posted on 03/20/2016 8:42:47 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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OK the votes are in, keep one race per thread... the end

56 posted on 03/20/2016 8:45:16 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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Haas F1 Team Earns Points in Debut Race: the Haas F1 Team, owned by NASCAR Sprint Cup Series team owner Gene Haas [Stewart-Haas Racing #4, #10, #14, #41], made history before and after the 32nd Australian Grand Prix Sunday in Melbourne. The organization's debut in Round 1 of the 2016 FIA Formula One World Championship marked the first time an American team had competed in Formula One since 1986. And after ending a 30-year drought for an American squad in Formula One, Haas F1 Team ended another drought for an organization's maiden F1 race. After starting 19th, Haas F1 Team driver Romain Grosjean finished an impressive sixth, earning the team eight points in the constructor standings.(full post at haasf1team.com)(3-20-2016)

57 posted on 03/21/2016 4:46:56 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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Ferrari 'Air Box' fire on the Kimster's car.

For an Air Box fire there has to be combustible material in the air box.

How could this happen in the Air Box? Normally the engine sucks any small fire into the engine extinguishing the fire.

Options

1. An Injection system issue which allowed fuel into Air Box. Now this means that fuel caught on fire under the air filter and moved past the air filter to come out of the air intake.

2. An intake issue such as an intake valve timing off or burned intake valve allowing combustible material into the Air Box, burning the air filter and coming out the air intake.

3. Other combustible material such as oil in the Air Box caught fire. How did oil get in the Air Box, via the sump breather into the air intake system? Was the Kimster's engine oil level too high or was there an engine issue pushing oil into the Air Box such as compression blow by? You know piston ring failure.

4.Or lastly, injecting extra fuel or a performance-boosting component into the combustion process via the the Air Box for performance increase!

Let me know your thoughts on this strange fire.

58 posted on 03/21/2016 6:29:32 AM PDT by Lockbox
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i think one sounds most likely

two wouldn't you hear odd engine noise

three it was bright flame and no real smoke like i'd expect from an oil fire

forth i don't even want to go there, but i hope not

59 posted on 03/21/2016 7:23:27 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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Regarding two, also maybe smoke out tail pipe.

Agree on three, did not burn like an oil fire or a carbon fiber fire.

Just wonder how fuel traveled up stream?

60 posted on 03/21/2016 7:46:27 AM PDT by Lockbox
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