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Cruz v Trump is Delegates v the Voter [vanity]

Posted on 03/15/2016 2:02:28 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

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To: sauropod
Start a new party? You betcha!

Sounds good. But you're still going to have to develop a set of rules. Of course, once you've developed a set of rules and selected party officials you'll be (drum roll) The Establishment!!!

21 posted on 03/15/2016 3:00:09 AM PDT by cowboyway (TEOTWAWKI and I feel fine...........)
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To: Happy Rain

I’m not a member of your damned party and couldn’t care less about how it operates internally. Evil is as evil does.

This is really kind of a win-win scenario. If Trump wins the nom, I’m happy. If Trump loses due to gop-e shenanigans, then the gop faction of the uniparty is most likely destroyed in the process. I’m not as happy with that scenario, but I’m still pretty happy to take that as second prize.


22 posted on 03/15/2016 3:02:09 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: Mad Dawgg
Sadly it will be so until we have an implosion worse than the Great Depression.

Until then we are basically just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic while watching the Iceberg as we speed towards it.

I know, and I fear it.

23 posted on 03/15/2016 3:04:23 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Mad Dawgg; sauropod; ronnie raygun

Very often people think ‘it’s too late’ right before there’s light at the end of the tunnel.


24 posted on 03/15/2016 3:11:19 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: cowboyway

An establishment designs rules to keep power. Notice how the GOP-E is changing the rules prior to the convention?

We need a political party that:

1. conforms better to popular vote.

2. cuts down the confusion, more uniformity in the primary process.

3. has a number of county-wide primaries for the first three months so that each early debate and town hall results in an actual vote rather than worthless early polling. Counties randomly selected, and a tight timeline for each so that campaign blitzes are brief, less ‘gamed’, and less expensive.


25 posted on 03/15/2016 3:18:04 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: RKBA Democrat

A lot of people feel the way you do.

Not comparing you with democrats, but I was curious how democrats felt after Obama. They said, “The system’s rigged. No point in voting anymore.”

Most of us peons in ‘flyover country’ never liked NAFTA for example. We saw factories shut down in coordination with it, and that appears to confirm our suspicions.


26 posted on 03/15/2016 3:20:47 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Mad Dawgg

“No Parties, No Politicians”

Exactly what George Washington wanted.

And I think that people will continue to grow less loyal to party affiliation over time. The Information Age is closing in on them.


27 posted on 03/15/2016 3:22:34 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: pookie18; All

The First Time Party Bigwigs Tried to Stop a Front-Runner From Becoming President It Backfired
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3409244/posts


28 posted on 03/15/2016 3:27:16 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Happy Rain

If it ain’t the people who select the nominee, then why do we vote?

It damn well better be the people !


29 posted on 03/15/2016 3:27:29 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

PARTY rules FReind, you want to pass a law where the government makes them?


30 posted on 03/15/2016 3:31:57 AM PDT by Happy Rain (CRUZ 2016 "Closest Thing We Have To Reagan" - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: RKBA Democrat
I’m not a member of your damned party and couldn’t care less about how it operates internally

If your not a Republican, why are even commenting about the Republican primary??? Jees, that is strange.

31 posted on 03/15/2016 3:33:25 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: Baldwin77
If it ain’t the people who select the nominee, then why do we vote?

To create the perception that we are in control of the process.

32 posted on 03/15/2016 3:34:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Happy Rain

Nope, I don’t want DC making party rules.

But Cruz supporters need to ask themselves what the point is in planning for a convention fight rather than a fair fight.


33 posted on 03/15/2016 3:35:38 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: sauropod

Hey, I’ll vote for either Cruz or Trump in November.
But that ain’t MY decision, it’s the GOP’s.

Cold hard barbed wire up the butt reality.


34 posted on 03/15/2016 3:37:52 AM PDT by Happy Rain (CRUZ 2016 "Closest Thing We Have To Reagan" - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: WHBates; RKBA Democrat

Hannity isn’t a registered republican either. But he’s a patriotic conservative. If things get too fishy at the convention, he’s going to call for a new conservative party.

Hannity probably favored Cruz all along, but now he believes in this:

“Unity or bust.”


35 posted on 03/15/2016 3:38:15 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Politics.
Why did the Allies use every means necessary to win WWII?
Because the alternative was nightmarishly unacceptable..


36 posted on 03/15/2016 3:42:28 AM PDT by Happy Rain (CRUZ 2016 "Closest Thing We Have To Reagan" - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Happy Rain

What if Trump actually does have 53% of popular republican support, protests the challenged primary, runs as an independent, and gains more support and energy than whoever is annointed?

Would you stick with the party even if it’s weaker than Trump?

I’ll pick the strongest horse in either case.


37 posted on 03/15/2016 3:42:57 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Happy Rain

I agree that we did some nightmarish things in WWII. The war was desperately close.

However, a primary is not WWII.

A convention challenge is one ego refusing to acknowledge that he’s not as popular.


38 posted on 03/15/2016 3:44:26 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Trump shows up with less than 1237 delegates.

Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich show up with a combined total of delegates greater than 1237.

No one wins on the first ballot.

Then, Rubio and Kasich throw their delegates to Cruz.

Game over, on the second ballot.

Fair and square, that’s how Conventions work.

You heard it here, first. Read ‘em and weep.

The Trump party ends in Ohio….


39 posted on 03/15/2016 3:49:01 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Are you denying that some people do not get borderline psycho during these times?
Especially when you toss a 10 billion megaton thermonuclear bomb like Donald Trump in the mix?


40 posted on 03/15/2016 3:51:46 AM PDT by Happy Rain (CRUZ 2016 "Closest Thing We Have To Reagan" - Rush Limbaugh)
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