Posted on 03/06/2016 5:54:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv
If there were definitive proof of *any* of the hypotheses, there would be no discussion of any of it. For that to be the case, his body would have to be examined, and that’s probably a century or more away (pending abolition of the ceremonial monarchy). Even his burial spot was lost for 150 years (which is surprising, at least).
There are those who don’t want to believe he died of syphyllis, and considering the consanguinity of royal lines, the health problems that afflicted the Tudor line could have originated earlier. Of his known children, only three outlived him, and none of them produced offspring. Only Elizabeth appears to have been healthy enough to have children.
http://onthetudortrail.com/Blog/2012/09/17/henry-viiis-final-resting-place/
http://www.speroforum.com/a/kkftbfrvlg30/67748-A-macabre-tale-of-the-death-and-burial-of-Henry-VIII
http://www.elizabethfiles.com/the-bisley-boy/3255/
I admit to thinking the same.
The Capetian dynasty had a lot of hereditary mental health issues, too..
Interesting, thanks. Honoring Jane as Queen would also help legitimize Edward. Such things were not at all set in stone, Mary actually raised an army and almost had to use it to claim the throne, even though Edward specifically passed his position to Lady Jane Grey.
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I think Catherine of Aragon had delivered him a son who lived he would have remained married to her and simply had his affairs.
LOL, touchy touchy. It's my theory, BTW, and if you're talking about validation, making a birth mother queen is, yes, a powerful form of validation for her child. As for books, what my wife had pointed out many times is that the emphasis of their contents varies according to almost factional intensity and political and religious divisions, to this day.
FWIW, Henry received the same “Defender of the Faith” title by Pope in 1521.
;’) A friend of mine didn’t quite believe me when I told him Dennis Hopper was in the first “True Grit”.
Henry VIII was libidinous, and also recognized his duty to produce male heirs. Before he nabbed Anne Boleyn, he’d already been, uh, dating her sister, but knew he couldn’t marry her. During her time as queen, Anne made sure her sister was taken care of in some fashion; Anne and their brother were both executed, their father was left with a home, a title, and an income, and wound up back at court.
With Her Head Tucked Underneath Her Arm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JKNl8gmESs
and, unrelated:
Did Anne Boleyn write this music while awaiting execution?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/classical-music/did-anne-boleyn-write-this-song-while-awaiting-execution/
and, curiously (unless one is aware of the nature of the Tudor ‘claim’ to the throne):
> all of Henry’s six wives are descendents of Edward I...
http://www.theanneboleynfiles.com/q-a/why-do-we-hear-so-little-about-anne-boleyns-mother-what-happened-to-her-mother-and-father-thomas-boleyn-after-anne-was-executed-is-it-true-that-thomas-boleyn-tried-to-save-his-own-life-by-betra/
With all due respect, a doofus on a message board who doesn’t know King James Bible was published is suspect.
If that makes me a bad person, so be it.
I can see how his change of behavior determined Anne's fate.
Although by 1536 Henry's marriage to Anne was already tanking, it was after the jousting accident that he became particularly vindictive. The news of the accident had shocked Anne into miscarrying -- a boy. Starting then, Henry believed their marriage was cursed. Which led to her eventual kangaroo trial and execution.
So I am guessing that the events that unfolded started from the trauma caused by head injury.
Nice catch
Fred
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