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To: Lumper20
You said the training in SF is the same whether Reserve or AD or NG and what I said was BS.

I made no such claim.

Read this from me a man who served in SF on active duty and this is from SF HQ at the start of this last war. As I stated it is not easy to train NG SF. In fact, there are no reserve SF units these days. Only the active duty groups and the 19th and 20th. When you say a man who served in SF is spouting BS you had best have been in SF yourself. READ.

I did and it sounds like there was an issue with equipment and a shortage of FT staff and for training for NG units. However:

‘‘They drill two days a month, maybe three in some cases, and attempt to sustain the same training levels and minimums as do the active component, because there is one standard, and they do so,’’ Burford said.

Skeptics wonder if part-timers can meet the rigorous standards, especially for combat-oriented jobs where there are no civilian equivalents.

Burford points to one National Guard company that reported to Fort Bragg.

‘‘On the day they got here, they scored 285 as an average on their P.T. test,’’ Burford said. ‘‘They are not at all, by any stretch of the imagination, second-class citizens.’’

That was out of a maximum of 300 points.

‘‘That’s pretty good for a guy who yesterday was a banker and today is a Special Forces soldier,’’ Burford said.

http://www.nationalguardsf.com/

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/national-guard-bolsters-its-commandos-46b47cdd4817#.6n857phef

264 posted on 03/09/2016 2:51:47 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Once again you read what you want. Gen Boykin who is one of the active duty SF Gen’s with Gen Lambert clearly tells you the activation of the guard units puts a huge demand on those at Bragg as the guard has a number of people who are not fully trained. I guarantee you the “Guard” had a large number of men who were not SF qualified before . The PT test is not a guarantee one can make it in SF. You have no idea of how many regular Army soldiers who have 4-7 years of service plus combat deployments with units like the 82nd and even ranger units who fail the SF selection process. You have no idea all the schools these guys have to go through to become qualified in the different MOS’s.


265 posted on 03/10/2016 4:58:37 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Go to your post 221. You make comments about SF and you know zip about SF. Our SF medics used to have to go to FT Sam for a year. Add the Dog lab. They had to treat a GSW and more on the dog. Seems PETA must have raised hell since I was in the 3rd, 5th, 6th and 10th SFGA’s. Based on your two weeks a year a NG medic would have over 20 years of service before he was qualified as an SF medic unless he was a prior AD SF medic. In fact, I recall during Vietnam someone screwed up and let a couple of draftees (2 YR committment) get in the SF medic course. I recall SGM Charlie Ferguson going off in late summer 69 about those guys.


266 posted on 03/10/2016 9:46:31 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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