Sorry Rooster, but having lived for a few years in NYC my read is that for someone like Trump, born and raised a rich New York Liberal, the NYT is his paper and the unwashed masses in flyover land, his viewers, voters, hotel and casino customers, and especially his fawning fans, are suckers. In a closed room in Manhattan with his peers what he says is going to be closer to the truth of his intentions.
He is an Archie Bunker kind of guy. Rich, perhaps, but rich is relative.
If you have a negative attitude, your wealth doesn't matter.
If you have a positive attitude, you are rich even if your bank account doesn't attest to it.
Happy folks are rich and moneyed rich but miserably folk are poop...and Hell is filled with them.