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Iowa Exposes Deeper Problems For Trump, And Potential Good News For Rubio
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 2/2/2016 | John Merline

Posted on 02/02/2016 4:20:09 AM PST by IBD editorial writer

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To: IBD editorial writer

The people who suddenly love Rubio seem to forget history....like when Rubio teamed up with Grover Norquist and his immigration lawyer chief of Staff Cesar CONDA who used SPLC talking points to try to destroy anyone who opposed the gang of 8 amnesty! ‘Bitter Enders’ is what they called all of us!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006017/posts


121 posted on 02/02/2016 8:54:44 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Texas Fossil
And as far back as the entry of Texas into the U.S. it was similar. Those same interests did not like anything that threatened their power.

True. John Quincy Adams, the same guy who dreamed up the Civil War (as a "cure" for slavery, you understand .... nothing but the highest motives, tut tut), fought a personal crusade to keep Texas cash-starved and out of the Union. It was John C. Calhoun <hissssss!!> who got Texas a serious loan that allowed something like a non-barter economy to start up in the state and eventually secured Texas entry to the Union as one of the few States that, like Vermont and Hawaii, that were States before admission to the Union.

To Yankees like Adams, continuation and extension of New England's political power was more important than expansion of the United States to the Pacific (Oregon was different, of course: it was settled by transplanted Yankees) or, in 1859-1861, simply keeping the peace and avoiding an internecine War Between the States.

The motto of New Hampshire is "Live Free or Die". That of Massachusetts has always seemed to be, "Ruat caelum, We Must Rule".

122 posted on 02/02/2016 10:45:28 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Rubio was the winner as he did much better than expected.

Cruz and Trump were within the margin of expected error. Not a win for either of them but certainly a confirmation that they both have support.

I’d say the bickering between Cruz and Trump meant more support went to Rubio. Just my opinion.


123 posted on 02/02/2016 10:47:33 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Texas was a Republic from time of the Revolution.

Yes, it acquired a huge block of land. Which was bartered into entry into US in return for statehood. But it paid off the Texas debt. It was still a slow trudge into what it is today. One of my ancestors was born in TX during the Republic. Others came during the evil days of “Reconstruction” (occupation). Headshake.

It was a very very long time before that was put behind in the memory of Texans. (and Okies)


124 posted on 02/02/2016 1:43:51 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: big'ol_freeper
You can say the same about New Hampshire actually

More recently, yes. For decades, New Hampshire was a pretty reliable bellwether for the eventual President.

125 posted on 02/02/2016 2:40:33 PM PST by CASchack
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To: IBD editorial writer

Well what Iowa really did show is that a first time newbie who is not the son of the preacher man came in a strong second in Iowa. Shocking actually.

It also showed some possible character flaws in the actual winner. Not one other GOP candidate that I know of has been reprimanded in writing by the the Sec of State of Iowa and accused of dirty tricks by another candidate. Its somewhat troubling especially since we are talking about the son of the preacher man. And it does speak to character.


126 posted on 02/02/2016 2:48:13 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CASchack

And SC is a bellweather state for sure.


127 posted on 02/02/2016 2:55:10 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Think about this trend.

Pack your bags, Wall Streeters: Your jobs are moving to Nashville

http://www.businessinsider.com/ubs-on-low-cost-locations-2016-2

Who can argue with the cost of operation away from the NE US?

Imagine Wall Street jobs being moved to the South? hee hee hee

Manufacturing did it long ago.


128 posted on 02/02/2016 3:17:41 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
I should think Tennesseeans would be horrified and call it "the Second Battle of Nashville".

Yeah, the new Southern manners ..... yaaah, fuhgeddaboudit!!

129 posted on 02/02/2016 3:20:48 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: elhombrelibre
But not all of the other candidates are enemy as Trump and some would have it. And how do those who oppose the establishment intend to win the Republican nomination if their candidate represents less than 30% of the party? I do believe that these anti-establishment folks can sit out the general election and help Hillary or Sanders win, but unless they can grow the appeal of the anti-party candidate beyond 30% in the Republican Party they’re not going to take over the party. Cruz can do this

I will go along with the notion that Cruz is anti-establishment, but I don't know who else at least that is viable.

If it is Rubio v. Sanders, however, we are going to have our first communist president.

130 posted on 02/02/2016 3:22:57 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Mase
So you guys are now for amnesty and the continuation of open borders?

Not that so much.

More like, Chittagong wages and Sag Harbor prices.

131 posted on 02/02/2016 3:28:14 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: AndyJackson
I will go along with the notion that Cruz is anti-establishment, but I don't know who else at least that is viable.

The only other truly anti-Establishment candidate with a pulse is Dr. Carson. He'd need some serious help to be viable, but he is arguably a far better man than anyone else save Cruz and the certifiably pulseless Rick Santorum.

132 posted on 02/02/2016 4:02:48 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I never cared much for CW history.


133 posted on 02/02/2016 4:59:11 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
It's good for Southerners to know what their ancestors wee up against ..... so far from faithful adherence to the Constitution were the Yankees, that they had to invent a moral issue to cover up the stink of what they were really doing, which was all about railroads and warehouses and public works paid for with federal monies. (Pop-quiz question: Of the major public-works "investments" of the early Republic in Federalist-run America, how many were located south of Mason-Dixon? Take a wild-ass guess. National Pike [later US 40], Chesapeake & Ohio Canal, Erie Canal, New York aqueduct [fresh water for NYC], any others you can think of.)
134 posted on 02/03/2016 9:06:48 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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