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To: angryoldfatman; LucyT; Georgia Girl 2

The eye witness who was in the car and released her testimony prior to this video said the LEO’s started shooting at them when they were originally stopped. This has her testimony and the video together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_u_9DSUv6c&feature=share

Good analysis here. http://libertylineup.com/2016/01/29/updated-analysis-of-fbi-video-oregon-standoff/


29 posted on 01/29/2016 10:39:27 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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Article is excerpted here “Our media communications team was up for most the night analyzing the FBI video, and combined with our eye witness accounts, interestingly when we gathered to discuss, we had all come to the same conclusion: LaVoy Finicum was murdered. The FBI and troopers were there to shoot to kill.

The FBI statement accused LaVoy of taking action to pull his gun. We believe this is false.

We know that LaVoy was willing to die for the ranchers (and all Americans)and they were there to educate and to help the Hammond’s get out of jail. This represented their and every farmer and rancher’s decades-long struggle for their property rights being taken away by the BLM and constant changes to regulations making it impossible for farmers and ranchers to maintain their livelihoods. LaVoy wrote a novel – Only Bloodshed and Suffering – about restoring Liberty. He made it clear from the first interviews at the refuge that he would rather die than go to prison. And he did.

Here’s the FBI statement

You are seeing right before your eyes how the federal government works with media outlets to spin the narrative. We observed the aerial video stopping it second by second. We need AUDIO! We need the dash cams. Aerial is not specific enough.

Without audio we have no way of knowing when the shots were fired and if they match up to LaVoy’s physical actions.

We can’t hear what LaVoy was saying when he got out of the car, nor the gunfire that our witnesses in the car told us they heard.

Our eye witnesses have told us that LaVoy got out of the car with his arms up, one account telling us he was saying “Shoot me, just shoot me!” And that he was shot in the face.

Our team has reviewed the video second by second. We believe there are flaws and missing pieces in the FBI narrative. We also know that Ammon told his wife that the FBI agents were agitated about what had happened, that it didn’t go right and they shouldn’t have fired on him and killed him.

The FBI’s narrative does not match what the eye witnesses have told us. The FBI agent for Oregon, Greg Bretzing, in charge of the operation, says that LaVoy reached for a gun on the left side of his jacket and then they shot him. So we looked closely, and it just does not measure up.

(Where’s Al Sharpton when we need him?)

What we see, which matches up with what our eye witnesses have told us, is that LaVoy was shot multiple times, as Victoria Sharp testified in her audio which we posted earlier.

Lisa, Ammon’s wife called us while I was at the Finicum’s home and reported the same.
We believe the FBI’s false narrative is that LaVoy was going for his gun on the left or in his left pocket.

You will hear all day long and in the weeks to come that LaVoy Finicum reached for his gun in his left pocket. That’s the narrative the FBI and the controlled Big Media wants you to hear.

Yes, we know he did not have his holster – he wears his gun on the right – he’s right-handed. We will need more information on this point. But if the FBI does not show – or have possession of footage of the inspection of his body on the crime scene (the FBI crime), then it will be left to eye witness testimony from the people in LaVoy’s car against that of the FBI – both hearsay testimony.

What we see is that LaVoy exited his car, arms up. He was then hit in the left side of his torso, and his upheld arms came down to hold his torso. That would be a natural reaction to pain.

Then you see him get disoriented and try to keep his balance in the deep snow.

Then he is hit again, and grabs his left chest. Another natural reaction to pain.

Immediately after that, the other gunman shoots him down with another shot, most likely the one to the head, a fatal blow that throws him backwards to the ground.”


31 posted on 01/29/2016 10:45:36 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy; LucyT; Georgia Girl 2

Good analysis, but it was more speculative than my description. I was merely factually describing what I saw in the video.

One thing I did forget to point out was that when the LEOs approached Finicum, they had their weapons drawn on him.


32 posted on 01/29/2016 10:51:33 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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