Seabed Scanning for East Anglian windfarm reveals Uncharted WWI German Submarine

ScottishPower Renewables ^ | January 21, 2016 | unattributed

[Rebelbase]

The wreck video shows some mighty fine eating hiding in the nooks, crannies and swimming around the wreck.

[2001convSVT]

All of them Very Brave Men, rest in peace.

[redfreedom]

We watched a WWII submarine show last night. I often wonder what it would be like to bring one of those to the surface, one that was still in tact. Would there still be pockets of air that would preserve history? Are they in good enough shape to restore as a museum piece. It’s just fascinating.

According to last nights movie, the German captain was also a submariner during WWI, and he stated that back then when they went down there would be no guarantee they would come back up. He was referring to how unreliable they were. If true, then I bet somewhere there is a very restoreable one.

[showme_the_Glory]

Forgot to put the plug in.

[free-in-nyc]

Das Boot (”The Boat”) - in German, with English subtitles -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzKyeIex2Y

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Earlier one in the Revolutionary war.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/worlds-first-submarine-attack

[redfreedom]

Das Boot is a very good movie.

What we watched last night was 1957 “The Enemy Below” staring Robert Mitchum & Curd Jurgens. It’s slow moving, but worth the watch.

We watched it on ROKU’s Classic Reel, which is a cheap version of TCM, $2.00 per month, their movie quality ranges from excellent to very poor. Their “Enemy Below” quality was very good. If you like old war movies, westerns, film noir and mysteries, it’s well worth the 2 bucks. All of it is 1930’s to mid 60’s.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

there was one almost used to sink an English ship in the Revolutionary war.
That was the Turtle. It never succeeded in sinking an enemy vessel. One man crew.

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One of Jeb Bush's ancestors perhaps; low energy and he didn't mind being underwater.

No offense to the brave patriots involved in the turtle project. Maybe if Ben Franklin had been around to help build it history would have been different.

[dp0622]

thanks for the turn on to that movie site.

Does anybody remember the movie, unless i was dreaming, of a US sub where the captain or whomever had to look outside above water, I guess to guide the torpedoes by vision, or something?

i know it sounds insane, but i saw it!!! lol.

if not, i’ll check into psych later tonight.

[dp0622]

thanks. i’ve heard of this, dont remember where. will take a peek.

staten island here :)

worked in the Twins and Rock Plaza and Financial Center.

[colorado tanker]

U-505 was captured on the surface by a U.S. Navy anti-sub warfare group. It is now on display at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. It is in an enclosed exhibition hall with lots of photos and interactive exhibits. Well worth the trip.

http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/u-505/

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks for that great subthread discussion of the Hunley. It has been a frequent topic of topics around here. Keywords:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/hunley/index?tab=articles
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/csshunley/index?tab=articles

For a few hundred years, subs had been used for surreptitious ingress and egress of ports, cities under siege, and stuff, but they were just barely submersible and man-powered. Diesel engines powered the subs of both world wars, and didn’t dive all that deep, mainly because of their need to breathe air. Building a sub to drop much below a half mile is non-trivial, especially when one is building them for military uses.

[SunkenCiv]

As ct mentioned, the U-505 was captured during WWII and someone figured out how to drag it to the Museum of S&I. I took that tour circa age 12, and was struck at the amount of valves and gauges and of course how cramped the thing was. Those were formidable weapons, and had the WWI uboats not been so effective, the Third Reich might have had more of a surface navy. Not sure, but I believe the naval Enigma machine on display at the Air and Space museum (go figure) in DC came from the U-505. The A&S museum display is the only place in the world where both the army and naval versions of Enigma can be seen. Not too sure there are many displays of either one, anyway.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks!

[exit82]

Thanks for this article, SC!

Love living in this age when the sea is giving up so many of its secrets.

For those also interested in WW2 German U-505:

http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/u-505/

[colorado tanker]

After the War the Navy didn't know what to do with the U-505 and it probably would have ended up scrap. Captain/Admiral Gallery, who was in command of the task force that captured U-505, talked the Navy into giving it to Chicago, his hometown. They sailed it through the Seaway to Chicago.

Here is a German U-Boat passing under the Brooklyn Bridge:

Being hauled out of Lake Michigan:

They dragged it accross Lake Shore Drive to the Museum:

It felt cramped with a tour group of about a dozen. I can't imagine being in that thing fully provisioned for a war cruise with a full crew.

There is an Enigma in the Imperial War Museum in London, but I can't remember now if they had one or both types.

[Smokin' Joe]

Yep. That’s the Turtle.

[Smokin' Joe]

Great movie for getting a handle on what was involved in being a submariner in the Kreigsmarine.

[Smokin' Joe]

The Enigma machine and code books were captured from the U 505. Daniel V. Gallery wrote an account of the capture. List of books I have read a couple of his books (All Hands on Deck and Now Hear This come to mind). He is an entertaining author, and a good read.

[Covenantor]

Revolutionary War- David Bushnell'd Turtle.

Robert Fulton's Nautilus cut-away full size