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To: Cboldt

It is not as ludicrous position as you postulate. The wisdom of the founding fathers is that the ultimate redress for any grievous overstep of or by Congress, lies with the People. As Congress represents the People, if such and overstep occurs, it can be corrected by correcting Congress during the next election.

The same Article I Section 8 (even same sentence) empowers Congress to set a uniform rule of bankruptcies. In similar hyperbolic case, Congress could enable any business throughout the world to file for bankruptcy in US Courts. There would be many dire consequences to such a move that dont need to be discussed here for the purposes of this argument. None the less, the authority is clearly articulated at the feet of Congress.

I am of the opinion that while Congress is authorized by the Constitution, the restraint exercised is done so for either fear of being removed from their position by the People or those representatives that are honestly holding to principles. I would point out that in one overstep, Congress removed jus soli as a means of justification for citizenship. The 14th amendment restored that justification for US citizenship and made it difficult for future sessions of Congress to remove that justification. It was the People through the later actions of Congress via the 14th amendment, that corrected that overstep.

I am also of the opinion that should a Congress pass an Act that authorizes the whole world as NBC, the People would rise up, throw the bums out, and like the 14th amendment, correct the actions of Congress either via subsequent Acts and possibly via another amendment.


109 posted on 01/20/2016 9:33:07 AM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: taxcontrol
It's obvious to a person who has read the law (in general, not just citizenship) that you have not read the law.

You are certainly entitled to your opinions, and your mistakes, and so on. But don't expect the rest of us to jump on the ship of "Let's Subvert the US Constitution."

111 posted on 01/20/2016 9:44:36 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: taxcontrol
-- I would point out that in one overstep, Congress removed jus soli as a means of justification for citizenship. --

LOL. You can't describe that "Congressional overstep" with any particularity, because none exists.

Art IV Sec. 2 makes citizens of a state, citizens of the US. Some states refused to grant citizenship to the children of slaves. That is what the 14th amendment cures. Not some Congressional overstep.

Anyway, we should cease this dialog, because continuing it will only lead to hard feelings. I have no hard feelings toward a person who reaches the wrong conclusion on want of understanding. That's innocent, common, and shows no effort to deceive.

Levin, OTOH, get out of here. He's like Baghdad Bob on this issue.

113 posted on 01/20/2016 9:49:31 AM PST by Cboldt
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