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To: Cold Heat
The Naturalization Acts from 1790 and 1795 combine to tell us what a natural born citizen was NOT. Their final determination referred to someone born to citizens outside of United States jurisdiction as a citizen.

This is important because they had defined such a person as a natural born citizen in the act of 1790. That they repealed this definition and changed it to citizen tells us that the location of birth was important enough to cause a change in their definition. The result is that whatever they thought a natural born citizen was at the time, it WAS NOT someone born outside of United States jurisdiction.

91 posted on 01/16/2016 6:00:51 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham
Have you read the Annals of Congress with respect to those 2 acts? I suspect not. There is no discussion as to why the 3rd Congress removed the "natural born" language from the 1795 Act.

Mr. Madison, from the select committee, reported a new bill of Naturalization, containing the amendments recommitted, and also whatever was necessary from the Old Law, so that the latter should be entirely superseded.

So it would seem that the committee felt the "natural born" language in the 1790 Act was not necessary. Of course that is my supposition since the record is devoid of any discussion about the "natural born" language. There are page after page of discussion, but none of it mentions the "natural born" language.

It would seem that Madison was the one who initiated the 1795 Act:

Mr. Madison gave notice that to-morrow, he should move for leave to bring in a bill, to amend an act for establishing a uniform system of naturalization in the United States. He did not wish to discourage foreigners who desired to incorporate themselves with the body political of America. At the same time, he thought the present law did not fully answer the purpose for which it was designed.

http://founders.archives.gov/?q=naturalization%20act&s=1611311121&r=1, citing Philadelphia Gazette, 9 Dec. 1794 (reprinted in Aurora General Advertiser, 16 Dec. 1794, Dunlap and Claypoole’s Am. Daily Advertiser, 17 Dec. 1794, and Independent Gazetteer, 17 Dec. 1794).

If Madison's intent was to correct a mistaken inclusion of "natural born" in the 1790 Act, he certainly didn't reveal it to Jefferson in his letter of January 11, 1795:

The last subject before the H. of Reps. was a Bill revising the Naturalization law, which from its defects and the progress of things in Europe was exposing us to very serious inconveniences. The Bill requires 1. A probationary residence of 5 instead of 2 years, with a formal declaration on oath of the intention 3 years at least prior to the admission. 2. an oath of abjuration, as well as of allegiance. 3. proof of good character, attachment to the principles of our Government, and of being well disposed to the good order and happiness of the U.S. 4. Where the candidate has borne any title or been of any order of Nobility, he is to renounce both on record. This last raised some dust.

http://founders.archives.gov/?q=new%20bill%20of%20naturalization&s=1211311121&r=23

No mention of removing the "natural born" language. It wasn't significant enough for Madison to include it in his rationale for introducing the bill or in his list of the bill's provisions. The historical record seems to be silent and your conclusions are mere supposition.

108 posted on 01/16/2016 8:05:19 AM PST by Gee Wally
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To: Uncle Sham

Your wrong....bye


118 posted on 01/16/2016 11:53:27 AM PST by Cold Heat
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