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To: Cold Heat
That citizenship is a matter of statutes between Canada and the US.

Exactly. Statutory citizenship is not Natural Born Citizenship. statutory/naturalized citizenship may be revoked (Rogers v. Bellei ) Natural Born Citizenship may not. Ted Cruz's citizenship could have been revoked had he not complied with the statutes governing his dual citizenship. A natural Born Citizen's citizenship can not be revoked.

Natural-born U.S. citizens may not have their citizenship revoked against their will, but may choose to renounce their citizenship on their own.

We stipulate to the fact that Cruz's mother was a natural born American and had no allegiance to Canada or any other country.

You may stipulate that all you like but that does not make it a fact as she most definitely was in allegiance with Canada as was her child who was born into the same allegiance.

Allegiance is nothing more than the tie or duty of obedience of a subject to the sovereign under whose protection he is, and allegiance by birth is that which arises from being born within the dominions and under the protection of a particular sovereign.

United states v. Wong Kim Ark

By "happenstance", (a important word here) she bore a male child in a Canadian hospital.

She moved to Canada, married a Canadian citizen, and gave birth to a child in Canada. Nothing was happenstance about her circumstances. She was not a soldier deployed overseas for example. She made a choice-several in fact.

157 posted on 01/17/2016 2:59:26 PM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: RC one
She moved to Canada, married a Canadian citizen, and gave birth to a child in Canada. Nothing was happenstance about her circumstances.

Actually he was a applicant at the time. He would later get his naturalized citizenship in Canada, and later again, naturalized in the US. This actually has no bearing on the Mother. Unless of course you wish to argue that men have the legal standing and women or mothers do not.

158 posted on 01/17/2016 3:30:55 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: RC one

For the hell of it,.,,,,lets do a analogous exercise.

I was born in the Northwest, to a Southern mother and a yankee dad.

Since birth, I have lived more than 2/3s of my life in the South, and went to college in the south, marrying a southern gal. I am still in the south.

Question:

Am I a natural born Yankee or a natural born Southerner?

I will take no offense to the answer.


159 posted on 01/17/2016 3:35:20 PM PST by Cold Heat
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