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To: PIF

How, would you know?

A flash frozen carcass of a wooly mammoth?

Out in open ground, with deliberate kill wounds, is suddenly frozen into, a literal time suspension from degrading naturally.

What in creation, does that physical observation/evidence- have to do with... “People did not even think as we do.”

You were not joking. I would like to know your reason. Thanks.


78 posted on 01/15/2016 10:49:06 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler; PIF; SunkenCiv; All

Flash frozen carcasses of mammoths seemed to be a phenomenon of the possible meteor(s) strike that precipitated the Younger Dryas cooling. The mammoth in this article was 3 times as old. It sounds more like it was frozen in mud deposits and stayed that way for all subsequent time until its recent discovery. Easily could have run into a river or been hunted alongside a river.


79 posted on 01/16/2016 12:21:23 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: RedHeeler

How do I know? There are many sources if you look for them - do your own looking. However, sticking to what you were taught in your HS or college history classes is very out of date and mostly wrong. You need to have a more open mind about the world around you if you hope to learn more that a regurgitation of whatever was spewed at you in school. Sunken Civ might give you a list if you FR mail him and ask nicely - assuming you truly want to learn.

You are conflating several different mammoth finds. There is more than just this one post about the history, use, and fate of the mammoth; many are incomplete or slightly misleading - one has to read through many of them to get a basic understanding of the subject - like most anything else.

Don’t know if you have ever spent anytime living in another culture, but if you had, you would have some idea that different cultures think about things differently. The further back in time one goes, the further from how we think today becomes. Going back 6-7,000 years to a culture that is becoming odder with every new discovery, is a leap that modern man can envision with a lot of concentration, but never live.

It is very difficult to explain or even conceptualize symbolic thought as a daily way of viewing the world. Modern cultures use reason and logic to achieve what we call rationality. We make reasoned decisions. It was not always that way, Nor is it that way for some other cultures - Amazon tribes or how some American Indian natives think of place and themselves, for instance.

Perhaps the closest we come is going to church and seeing statues or other representations of holy figures and allowing all that is associated with the concept the figure represents to fill us in that moment; but when we walk out of the church that moment fades until the next time. Old Kingdom Egyptians thought that way about everything at all times, not just one religious representation in a temple in one moment. The Egyptian gods were never seen as actual beings, but as symbols of thought; the particular thought depended on the place, use, and particular representation of the god; even the Giza pyramids and all the stela were part of this world view.


80 posted on 01/16/2016 2:54:19 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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