“So, VanDeKoik, how many of your tech illiterate friends would have thought they HAD to upgrade, either “now” or “tonight?”If they can read? None.
For everyone's reference, this is what VanDeKoik says you 'just need to read' to know that Windows is not going to be force installed:
Really? So, what were you supposed to “read” to know it was not needed to choose the only two options on that screen? How would anyone know that hitting that tiny “x” to close the window wouldn't immediately start one of those two options as the default and install?
” but having your copy of Windows seemingly force”
Again, it isn't, but playing victim of “M$” is seemingly a badge of pride by some on this site.
I have been working with Microsoft products since 1982 and Windows since 1990. I have no reason to make up an issue with Microsoft. I can tell you such a screen has never shown before from a Windows patch. Such behavior changes from a product should be considered unfriendly behavior.
“That prompt choice really put a nail in Microsoft's reputation, in my book. It's worse than malware, because your computer gets completely redone, and may come back not working.
Take a second to read and you wont “install” anything. Win 10 requires you to multiple times hit buttons giving user permission. Again, you want to hide behind laziness to play victim of some nefarious plot.
Again, there is nothing on that screen to say there is any option but to install, and anyone thinking of hitting the out-of-the-way “x” should have feared a default install behavior was a definite possibility.
“After telling my customers and coworkers for years to have updates set to that (for all who can't be assured of staying up on every little patch),”
So you encouraged people to pay no attention to what is going on with their machine? Wonderful.
For those, as I stated, who couldn't keep up on the intricacies, especially older people, of course I would suggest the very default Microsoft strongly recommends for computer safety. As I later mentioned, Microsoft isn't describing update detail any longer, so even if you wanted to know something, Microsoft has officially stated you won't be informed. Take your beef up with Microsoft.
“VanDeKoik, you may think all of this cr@p is an excellent thing, but “
Personal responsibility? Silly me I forgot this is the part of FR where you can go and brag about how little of that you engage in.
When people buy a product from a responsible company, they expect responsible behavior. If you were run into by a wayward vehicle and injured, would it be your lack of personal responsibility that caused that? In “VanDeKoik-land,” it would be, because VanDeKoik was in his car, which allowed himself to be hit. The rest of us don't see it that way.
“Eat that”
How edgy. Can't take time to pay attention to what you are doing, and it's someone else’s fault. Better write Obama so we can get a government program to prevent that.
Yeah, about that “Eat that,” well, that stays.
See that little red X up in the corner? You know the one that closes stuff?
If you dont want to install it, just click it.
#2 you failed to show the process in which that window even comes up. Where the user has to click the little popup. You can do, like I do with my Win7 work pC, and click the X to dismiss it as we arent migrating to it just yet.
But I’m the master of the dark art of PAYING ATTENTION AND USING SIMPLE LOGIC, which goes against the “M$ is oppressing me and making my hand click on things” narrative that you want everyone to think happens. Over 100 million times I’m sure.
“I have been working with Microsoft products since 1982 and Windows since 1990. I have no reason to make up an issue with Microsoft.”
Well you just did! First time for everything.
“Again, there is nothing on that screen to say there is any option but to install, and anyone thinking of hitting the out-of-the-way “x†should have feared a default install behavior was a definite possibility.”
So again, you have to play the “people are idiots” card in order to prop up the narrative.
If this person actually knows anything about PCs, and has been using them for more than 5 minutes, they would have known that they can just close it. I did it. What’s stopping you?
And a person has even the extra step to open up a web browser, because this window does not disable anything on the PC, and do a simple search to get more info.
But that’s that silly old “personal responsibility” thing again. I forget this is Obama’s America where one just clicks stuff and then scream that they’ve been “tricked”.
On top of that, if you actually did hit “install now” you still have to go through multiple prompts before an actually installation takes place, including choosing to wipe your old installation or setting it up on a partition.
But I guess these “OMG Windows install automatically” people must be really good at random clicking to have pulled that off.
“When people buy a product from a responsible company, they expect responsible behavior. “
Still at no point is anything forced. Unless you now want to start counting all of the updates in Android, OSX, and iOS as “forced” as well. And those are far more automatic than what you have here.
“If you were run into by a wayward vehicle and injured, would it be your lack of personal responsibility that caused that? In “VanDeKoik-land,†it would be, because VanDeKoik was in his car, which allowed himself to be hit. The rest of us don’t see it that way.”
(That analogy doesn’t even make logical sense, but whatever...)
If a box appeared in front of me saying “hey, do you want to get hit by a car”, with X in the corner to get rid of the box and have nothing happen, or the ability to have to go through multiple prompts before the car hits, with any number of chances to cancel, and I just pressed “OK”, then YES it is MY FAULT.
But in the land of MS conspiracy theories, when people scream that they were “forced to get hit”, you are NOT ALLOWED to point out the bleeding obvious that they could have just closed the X in the corner and got rid of it AND AVOIDED GETTING HIT.