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From xxx | 02/02/2016 9:35:52 PM PST

What I think is going on.

Cruz, Trump, and Carson are all "outsiders", and should have been 1-2-3 in Iowa.

Carson is the weaker of the three.

The GOPe wants to get rid of all three of these guys.

They have plenty the Dems will unload on Trump, from his past, which they will use to take the wind out of Conservative sails when November comes around. If Trump becomes the candidate, that is. I predict, he won't.

Here is the game plan. Eliminate Carson. Those voters went to Rubio as the next best 'not Cruz nor Trump' candidate to Carson, at least any who thought Carson was quitting. If they wanted Cruz or Trump, they would have been in those camps already.

Trump has no qualms about attacking Cruz. If dirty tricks can be pinned on Cruz, then Cruz is weakened. There has been so much emnity between Cruz and Trump camps (just look around here) that there will be no one to the other crossover if the other drops out. Voters will either drop out or hold their noses and vote for who is next, which the GOPe has chosen to be Rubio.

If Cruz and Trump don't mutually destroy each other, the GOPe will first destroy Cruz, then use Trump's past support of New York pols, including Clinton, Cuomo, Schumer, Weiner, and Bloomberg to call into question any conservative cred Trump has, and play the New York Values thing against him in the south and the heartland.

They'll simultaneously throw the whole machine behind Rubio who is from Jebbie territory and get Jeb on the VP ticket.

By the convention, Rubio will be the 'boy wonder' and he'll take on the Dem. Status quo in DC is just fine by the GOPe who has been profiting from it handsomely, or they would have scuttled Obama by doing all the things Cruz has tried to do, so either way, dem or pubie, the establishment wins.

**They have plenty the Dems will unload on Trump, from his past,..**

Like what?

LucyT wrote:

“From xxx | 02/02/2016 9:35:52 PM PST

What I think is going on.

Cruz, Trump, and Carson are all “outsiders”, and should have been 1-2-3 in Iowa.
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To your post #122 quoting #120. I don't need to quote the post to reply.

#120 is in my view a pretty accurate summary of what is in process.

One point is that this is a reason why you want to keep both Trump and Cruz in the race. The establishment is reluctant to kick either one out alone because it will fix the votes of the eliminated candidate on the other.

You would like to hope that they quit attacking each other and avoid prejudicing the option that they make a deal at the end of the game.

For us, the differences are obvious and simple--nothing is gained on either side by continuing to attack each other over the common bank of votes.

Cruz has a more consistent record of conservative positions; vulnerability on his establishment professional history and that of his wife--anybody who has been at the top of the current financial and professional activity would also as does Trump; Cruz has a history of a more consistent Christian commitment. And Cruz is significantly exposed to an establishment attack on the basis of his Constitutional eligibility--if he got elected, the objection would disappear--the Court would refuse to hear the case on the grounds that it presents a political question and is not justiciable. Further, it was bad judgment to let the issue get out of control in the campaign when he could have resolved it before it became a problem.

Trump's initial position on the borders and immigration and citizenship was hard core--better than anyone else. He is waffling a little and needs to stop. And that is one of the important issues. And Trump is also preferable on the proposition that he is result oriented; recognizes clearly that the Country is on the ropes and that radical change is required--and that's why he is here. I don't fault his loose social history on religious grounds--God didn't make me the judge.

His commitment to the Christian community is certain a lot better than Barry's--we may live in a secular legal society however if we get Constitutional Legal Officers, our rights are pretty clear.

But at this point Trump is losing ground because he is whining and wanting to talk about issues that are no longer relevant (performance in Iowa); he needs to get back on message really fast and stay there--if he doesn't, he is out quicker than anyone expects. What happened in Iowa is history--irrelevant; an argument over two or three delegates.

If you could get both of them on one ticket, you could probably believe you had 12 to 16 years of control in which you could get the country back.

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If Cruz and Trump don't mutually destroy each other, the GOPe will first destroy Cruz, then use Trump's past support of New York pols, including Clinton, Cuomo, Schumer, Weiner, and Bloomberg to call into question any conservative cred Trump has, and play the New York Values thing against him in the south and the heartland.

What Trump will do is what he does best: tell the truth. He will say, "Yes, I did those things; but the situation has now changed: Benghazi, secret server, Paris, San Bernardino, Brussels. My skill is leadership, and this is what I believe we must do to combat this danger. The past is past. If we don't band together now to save our country, we will have no future."