[terycarl]

See #7. The Catholic church pulled this one out of the hat a couple of years ago. We say it at every Mass, but it doesn’t come easy.

Nope, when I was a kid singing latin in the choir (I'm 76)..the line in the Credo was consubstantialum Patri....they are going back to it

[afraidfortherepublic]

But it was never in the English translation, so English speakers are/were unaware of it.