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Trump Won't Blow Up, But He Will Fade Away
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/10/2015 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 12/11/2015 9:18:49 AM PST by conservativejoy

Nothing Donald Trump could say or do would drag him down in the polls.

But also, nothing the brash billionaire could say or do can prevent the slide that is coming.

The offensiveness of Trump's comments and quasi-policy proposals are their virtue, politically. His true weakness is that only a sliver of his supporters actually want him to be the Republican nominee.

A close reading of the polls helps show the shallowness of Trump's support. Trump's strongest arena , the national poll , is a nearly meaningless artifact this close to the primaries. In the earliest parts of the primary season, a national poll tells you only who is widely known and liked, not who will win. In the later parts of the primary season a national poll can be a very imperfect proxy for a multi-state poll.

But within two months of Iowa and New Hampshire, the only polls that really matter are the polls of Iowa and New Hampshire. Why? Because the results in Iowa and New Hampshire affect voters in the later states. Many candidates will drop out after each of those states, consolidating support behind other candidates.

On December 10, 2008, Rudy Giuliani led in national polls by 5 points. But he was weak in Iowa. He lost Iowa badly, and then faded to the background.

Hillary Clinton also led the national polls that day, but Obama had eked into the lead in Iowa surveys. Many Democratic voters loved Obama but didn't think a black man could get elected. When Obama won Iowa, that fear vanished. Obama immediately rose in the polls in every state.

So, lesson No. 1 is this: national polls, where Trump's lead is the biggest and the most consistent, are nearly meaningless. Take any December 10 before the presidential primaries in this millennium, and the national polling leader that day has not won Iowa or the nomination in any contested primary.

Here's another telling fact: the more that polls refine for the likelihood of a respondent actually voting, the worse Trump does.

Trump leads Rubio in New Hampshire, 21 percent to 17 percent in a recent Adrian Gray Consulting poll. But when the pollster screened to "Likely NH GOP Voters," the result was a tie,19 percent Rubio to 18 percent Trump. Refining further to "Very Likely NH GOP Voters," Rubio takes a nominal lead within the margin of error, 19 percent to 17 percent.

Iowa's latest poll tells a similar story. Ted Cruz leads Trump in Monmouth's poll, 24 percent to 19 percent. The pollster notes, however, that if they limited the poll to voters who had participated in caucuses in the past, Cruz would lead Trump 25 to 16, nearly doubling his lead.

This pattern suggests how things might shake out in the coming weeks. As pollsters sharpen their likely-voter screens, Trump's numbers will drop.

Trump's numbers will drop still further as voters get more serious about choosing a nominee. A majority of Republicans in both Iowa and New Hampshire are still undecided. Every Trump supporter I spoke to in Iowa immediately named a secondary candidate, Paul, Rubio, or Cruz.

Americans hate Congress, Politicians, Washington, and the Republican Party. Telling a pollster you will vote for Trump may be more of an expression of disdain for the "Establishment" than an actual expression of voter intention.

Put another way: Mad-as-Hell voters have dated Trump, but they're ready to marry Cruz or Rubio.

But here's what will not happen: Trump will not crash and burn because he says some terrible thing. Attacking McCain for being a POW, making misogynist comments against Fox News hosts, mocking reporters for being disabled, and proposing a religious test for immigrants: these comments all help Trump. They help Trump because they evoke freak-outs from liberals and establishment types, which a certain kind of voter loves more than anything.

In today's world of political correctness, everything evokes freakouts. It's sexist to criticize Fed Chair Janet Yellen. It's racist to call Obama skinny. Even defending the freedom of speech is oppression. Some Americans, sick of this idiotic speech policing, have developed a habit of gravitating towards the offensive.

So Trump isn't going to blow himself up. He's simply going to fade away.


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1 posted on 12/11/2015 9:18:49 AM PST by conservativejoy
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LOL! Sure he’ll fade away...when he wants his privacy. Maybe 20 years after his presidency.


2 posted on 12/11/2015 9:19:49 AM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: conservativejoy
"Trump will fade away." Hooray for more of the same!

Go Trump!

3 posted on 12/11/2015 9:20:12 AM PST by inkfarmer
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To: conservativejoy
Trump Won't Blow Up, But He Will Fade Away

Fat chance.
4 posted on 12/11/2015 9:20:35 AM PST by farming pharmer
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To: RoosterRedux; Albion Wilde; hoosiermama; Amntn; RitaOK; flaglady47; HarleyLady27; MinuteGal; ...

LOL....Trump fadeaway take # 10,450!!


5 posted on 12/11/2015 9:21:37 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: conservativejoy

He’s not the fading type.


6 posted on 12/11/2015 9:23:19 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: conservativejoy

I wouldn’t bet the house on that Timmy.


7 posted on 12/11/2015 9:23:36 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: conservativejoy

Pay no attention - the Washington examiner is an anti-Trump rag.


8 posted on 12/11/2015 9:24:04 AM PST by aquila48
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To: conservativejoy

A lot of these people should be searching for a new job after President Trump is in office...

How can people THIS WRONG have the credibility needed to continue in the job?


9 posted on 12/11/2015 9:24:12 AM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy

Trump will go away soon ...
wait for it ...
any day now ...
it won’t be long now ...
still waiting ...
still waiting ...


10 posted on 12/11/2015 9:24:31 AM PST by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: conservativejoy

It is a darn good thing we have all these media geniuses to explain to us why Trumps lead in the polls really isnt a lead in the polls.


11 posted on 12/11/2015 9:24:49 AM PST by samtheman (I will build a great, great wall on our southern border... - DT)
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To: conservativejoy
Trump leads Rubio in New Hampshire, 21 percent to 17 percent in a recent Adrian Gray Consulting poll

Nothing like quoting some seasoned well known pollsters who have long track records.

12 posted on 12/11/2015 9:26:39 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: conservativejoy

It’s not a river in Egypt, idiot!


13 posted on 12/11/2015 9:27:49 AM PST by Redleg Duke (The Federal Government is nothing but a welfare program with a dress code!)
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To: Jane Long

So that’s why Trump draws such huge crowds every where he goes. It is obviously a sign that he is going to soon fade away, and we will all return to the establishment candidate and the corruption and dishonesty that has gotten us into this mess. The one thing this writer really forgets is that Trump has barely spent any money at all, and the other candidates have spent many many millions. If it was possible for them to take Trump out, they certainly would have done so by now.


14 posted on 12/11/2015 9:29:20 AM PST by erkelly
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To: conservativejoy

There is no evidence to support this claim, it is merely wishful thinking.

He may fade...but if I were a betting man, I would bet that he won’t.

We shall see.


15 posted on 12/11/2015 9:29:34 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: samtheman

We are in the silly season. no one is the designated candidate for the presidency.


16 posted on 12/11/2015 9:29:48 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Stop Islam and save the world.)
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To: conservativejoy

They’ve been saying he will slide away since he first announced he is running. “He will fall, he is finished, it is over” blah blah blah. The treasonists and elitists in this country just cannot accept the fact that the people are more powerful than any of them. A homeless bum in the street has more power in his vote than any John Boehner, Paul Ryan, Obama, Hitlery, or any of these other elitist punks and traitors. One vote is all it takes to destroy any of them. They are not royalty, they are servants and they just can’t stand the fact that Trump and the voters are going to bring that reality down hard upon their corrupt asses. YOU’RE FIRED!


17 posted on 12/11/2015 9:29:54 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: conservativejoy

I think Trump will bring out a lot of voters, who haven’t voted for a long time.


18 posted on 12/11/2015 9:29:58 AM PST by lacrew
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To: conservativejoy
The author of this piece doesn't know Trump very well.

He is a force of nature. He's like a storm that just keeps gaining strength.

19 posted on 12/11/2015 9:30:09 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light - John Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: conservativejoy

Rudy’s socially liberal positions sank his poll numbers and his chances.


20 posted on 12/11/2015 9:32:18 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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