[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

I know what you mean.

What also annoys me about these misconceptions is that both are often held by those American leftists who criticize America for all the ills of the past 200 years, who condemn us for being an empire and going into whatever country we want to take what we want.

The hypocrisy is nauseating.

[Smokin' Joe]

What also annoys me about these misconceptions is that both are often held by those American leftists who criticize America for all the ills of the past 200 years, who condemn us for being an empire and going into whatever country we want to take what we want.

Yeah, those same people who want cheap gasoline, and cheap stuff made/grown elsewhere, too.