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To: Vic S
Check out the Heckler and Koch P30 or P30L.

Excellent choices! For the price conscious, the Glock 19 and 17 are great alternatives.

93 posted on 12/05/2015 5:06:39 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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The Walther PPS about 1 inch wide, much easier to carry than Glock inside the waist band for CCW.

You can carry 7 or 8+1 has one of the best triggers and costs about $360 plus shipping online.

May as well get a gun that doesn’t have misfeeds of any such problems.

The 9mm was the first semiauto caliber to find widespread acceptance as an issue weapon in law enforcement. The better loads do quite well. If it wasn’t for the introduction of the problematic 147-grain loads, I’m convinced it would still be the most common handgun caliber among the badge guys. I’m aware of many departments that switched to .40 S&W simply to get away from the 147-grain loads. The current generations of 147gr JHPs are vastly superior to the originals, but they still can’t hold a candle to loads such as the CCI 124gr Gold Dot +P or the Win 127gr JHP +P+ offerings. Federal’s new HST offerings and CorBon’s PowR’ball look extremely promising, but we haven’t seen any street results with either yet. Clearly, the best 9mm police loads are the 115- and 124 / 127-grain JHPs driven to +P+ pressures.
Latest one shot stop law enforcement statistics

9mm Service Pistols
Total Stops %

1. Fed 115gr JHP +P+ 209 190 91%

2. Win 115gr JHP +P+ 167 150 90%

3. Win 127gr Ranger SXT +P+ 104 94 90%

4. Rem 115gr JHP +P+ 98 88 90%

5. Fed 124gr Hydra-Shok +P+ 111 99 89%

6. CCI 124gr Gold Dot +P 193 170 88%

7. CorBon 115gr JHP +P 89 78 88%

8. Rem 124gr Golden Saber +P 49 43 88%

9. Fed 124gr Nyclad LHP 271 224 83%

10. Win 147gr Ranger SXT 129 107 83%

11.Fed 124gr Hydra-Shok 261 217 83%


95 posted on 12/05/2015 5:23:52 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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