Posted on 11/29/2015 12:12:48 AM PST by TigerClaws
The suspect accused of killing three people in an attack on a Planned Parenthood in Colorado was once a happy father and art dealer who painted and listened to rock music, a report has revealed. Robert Dear, 57, who allegedly burst into the clinic in Colorado Springs on Friday and opened fire, was a recluse who moved to a remote cabin in the state a year ago, his neighbors have told Daily Mail Online. But a new report by the New York Times has revealed that Dear was once a happily married family man who lived with his wife and son in South Carolina. Since his 2000 divorce, Dear seems to have declined into a loner who lives in a remote cabin, seeking bondage and sadomasochistic sex online and smoking marijuana.
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yeah..the old booze runners found a new way to make money...goading the world into WW2. Don’t forget, it was the progressives that passed Prohibition and it was progressives that ended it...follow the money...always follow the money!
The medical records of the time also saw a drop in alcoholism as well as folks who tended to follow the laws saw no real benefit in pursuing what was illegal anyway. There was a drop in alcohol related disorders and crimes and the positive effects of prohibition persisted well after prohibition ended as the per capita rate of alcoholism never achieved the same heights as it had prior to prohibition but instead stabilized to the general rates we saw thru the last decade of the 90’s. So the question is was the ending of prohibition itself one direct causative factor for the decline in murder rates or was the actual lowering of the alcoholism rate(despite the ending of prohibition) a direct or indirect cause?
Legalizing drugs will of course result in higher usage
Which part of "significantly" did you not understand?
Where do you get evidence that illegal drugs made legal will not still be distributed by illegal means...last information I saw from Colorado is the illegal pot trade is still flourishing...
Illegal cigarettes are a factor only in those liberal cities that tax them astronomically; if legal-pot states don't excessively tax or restrict market entry, illegal pot will eventually be about as big as illegal alcohol.
Correct - substance bans are a leftist idea.
and it was progressives that ended it
It was everybody who ended it: the conservatives, who had opposed it from the start, and the progressives who could see the reality of its failure.
Evidence?
There was a drop in alcohol related disorders and crimes
Crimes went up, as I showed in posts #108 and #116.
So the question is was the ending of prohibition itself one direct causative factor for the decline in murder rates or was the actual lowering of the alcoholism rate(despite the ending of prohibition) a direct or indirect cause?
By your (unsupported) account alcoholism should have been dropping during the entire time of Prohibition ... but the murder rate rose during that time as I showed in post #108.
This was covered in an other threat where I cited a all kinds of stuff ...so I won’t go back in time...even in the other thread the other person kept arguing that the methodology for collating such info wasn’t as good as it is now blah blah blah....so I guess you’ll have to take my word for it or not!
Link?
So, what you are saying is that to feed your libertarian fantasy about some misguided understanding of freedom you are happy to have millions more suffer if only we can legalize and make free market available drugs which result in massive harm not just to those who use them, but to those around them. Let me ask you something, do you think an addict without money to supply his drug (alcohol included) will not do harm to get his drug?
It is bad business all around, when one takes morality out of the laws we end up with similar things like what Nazi’s and Communist secularists created. Indeed, we are not on our way there, this nation is not a good nation anylonger. We kill tens of millions of babies for convenience...and that isn’t enough...we have accepted that the abortionists cut apart live bodies and sell the parts...the vast majority of those who do violent crime have some drug/alcohol in their blood system. I really don’t care if drug dealers spend their life in jail, it is called justice.
BTW, your statistic is backwards...to say “no good evidence the drug criminalization significantly reduces” of very addictive substances is a spewed stat. Indeed, if looked at properly from that statistic one may easily infer that legalization will have a significant impact on use.
Please try to discern what you read and write...
“Teenagers who aren’t old enough to buy tobacco or alcohol have never had a problem getting pot.”
Usually because there are adults involved making sure the kids are supplied with whatever they want, if they have the money.
Over the years, I have seen many adult pot smokers “turning on” the kids (don’t tell your parents now) to pot.
I have seen those same kids go from good, respectful, straight a students, Christian, etc., become rebellious, dis respectful,lazy, lying, neglecting their school work, start getting in legal trouble,etc.
A little pill called Captagon turns Jihadists into superhuman soldiers. They don’t feel pain, they don’t fear death and they don’t get tired. They become killing machines. Bonus… it makes them murderously psychotic and causes brain damage after prolonged use. It’s cheap, easy to produce and highly addictive. The Syrians take it as do the rebels. And from what I hear, ISIS loves the stuff. They laugh when they are beaten, they are high when they rape, they are jazzed when they behead infidels. During the raid in Paris, French police said they found needles used by the attackers to inject themselves with Captagon. The drug may have helped them remain calm as they carried out their brutal attacks, which included slicing the bellies open of their victims while they were still alive.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opinion/actually-prohibition-was-a-success.html
You might find this article interesting.
Satan doesn’t really care if Iron Maiden doesn’t induce you to worship him as long as you aren’t worshiping “that other guy”. Now if you start entertaining notions of going to church, reading the Bible, giving some thought about a living God come in the flesh and dying on the cross, chances are you might receive some incoming flak!
No, it lowers mental barriers making the mind more susceptible to suggestion and manipulation.
BTW, your statistic is backwards...to say "no good evidence the drug criminalization significantly reduces" of very addictive substances is a spewed stat. Indeed, if looked at properly from that statistic one may easily infer that legalization will have a significant impact on use.
Please try to discern what you read and write...
I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to communicate. Repair your fractured syntax, or not, as you choose.
Legalizing drugs will of course result in higher usage
Which part of "significantly" did you not understand?
Where do you get evidence that illegal drugs made legal will not still be distributed by illegal means...last information I saw from Colorado is the illegal pot trade is still flourishing...
Illegal cigarettes are a factor only in those liberal cities that tax them astronomically; if legal-pot states don't excessively tax or restrict market entry, illegal pot will eventually be about as big as illegal alcohol.
I notice you didn't address any point previously under discussion.
So, what you are saying is that to feed your libertarian fantasy about some misguided understanding of freedom you are happy to have millions more suffer
Government is neither authorized nor competent to combat self-inflicted harms - otherwise we'd have an Overeating Police (as Moochelle seems to want).
if only we can legalize and make free market available drugs which result in massive harm not just to those who use them, but to those around them. Let me ask you something, do you think an addict without money to supply his drug (alcohol included) will not do harm to get his drug?
Addicts are doing harm now - legalization (without overtaxation or overregulation) will lower the price of a fix and thus the crime needed to pay for it.
We kill tens of millions of babies for convenience...and that isn’t enough...we have accepted that the abortionists cut apart live bodies and sell the parts...
Abortion violates the rights of its unwilling victim - drug sale and use have only willing participants.
the vast majority of those who do violent crime have some drug/alcohol in their blood system.
Does that mean the drug alcohol should also be banned?
The vast majority of those who have some drug/alcohol in their blood system don't do violent crime.
Usually because there are adults involved making sure the kids are supplied with whatever they want, if they have the money.
Only in a legal regulated market can those who sell to adults be given a profit motive to not also sell to kids. That's why kids have for years reported that they can get pot more easily than cigarettes or beer.
Alcohol, I suspect, was a factor in some of them
What policy conclusions, if any, should we draw from the involvement of alcohol and other drugs?
A little pill called Captagon turns Jihadists into superhuman soldiers. They don't feel pain, they don't fear death and they don't get tired. They become killing machines. Bonus... it makes them murderously psychotic and causes brain damage after prolonged use. It's cheap, easy to produce and highly addictive. The Syrians take it as do the rebels. And from what I hear, ISIS loves the stuff. They laugh when they are beaten, they are high when they rape, they are jazzed when they behead infidels. During the raid in Paris, French police said they found needles used by the attackers to inject themselves with Captagon. The drug may have helped them remain calm as they carried out their brutal attacks, which included slicing the bellies open of their victims while they were still alive.
That doesn't answer the question.
What do N.Carolina and Colorado, have in common?
By the by, weren’t the shootings next to a pp clinic? No one was shot in the clinic, right?
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