[central_va]

We conservatives want to cut them off and help them survive in ways other than relying on govt and are still the evil ones.....

I agree. We off shored out manufacturing base, which provided stability to the lower classes and the lower wrungs of the economic ladder to make life better. This was so short sighted and stupid on so many levels. I would like to eliminate the income tax and replace it with tariffs and excise/sales taxes. This would halt the march to socialism.

[PeterPrinciple]

I would like to eliminate the income tax and replace it with tariffs and excise/sales taxes. This would halt the march to socialism.

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I am sorry and hate to bust your balloon. But there are no magic bullets to fix things. The corruption just changes and morphs because that is the nature of man.

We got rid of emphasis on tariffs because of all the corruption and went to income taxes because it was going to solve all the problems and encourage free markets.

I do not necessarily disagree with you but we need to recognize that when ever we fix something with govt, it causes MORE problems than it solves.

So does that make me a pessimist or a realist? Optimist is probably off the table?