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Blacks, Latinos Face New Problem: ‘Math Misplacement’: Pushed to the back of the math class bus
PJ Media ^ | 10/02/2015 | Rod Kackley

Posted on 10/02/2015 7:10:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: bkopto
"And then there's the elephant in the room that everyone studiously ignores:"

Sssssssssshhhh.....speaking the truth will get you labeled a racist. Except IQ has been excellent at predicting academic (and career) success for almost a century.

41 posted on 10/02/2015 11:21:42 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: SeekAndFind
She claims middle-school algebra teachers are holding back black and Latino kids from advancing to ninth-grade geometry, even though they are doing just as well as white kids who are getting a grade of “B” or better, and are meeting or exceeding state standard assessments.

SURE they are.

42 posted on 10/02/2015 11:23:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: bkopto

I hate to seem ignorant, but could you please explain what this chart means?


43 posted on 10/02/2015 11:23:53 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: grania
This article states that some of the minority students repeating Algebra 1 scored higher than those not held back

Of course. Would YOU like to stake your pension on failing a minority kid a second time?

Didn't think so.

44 posted on 10/02/2015 11:25:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: SeekAndFind

Also Israel has over one million Arabs in their population. But I would question the 94 mark. For its size, Israel outperforms many western nations with much larger populations in the areas of math and science. I would question quite a few of the numbers.


45 posted on 10/02/2015 11:35:02 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: grania
"they suffer a disadvantage when they have to get back to it in college"

True. I deliberately shunned harder math and science courses in high school. When I got to college and tried to take some science courses, I was way behind other students.

Even if a student doesn't perform well in high school, just having a background of having a rudimentary knowledge of the subject helps enormously in college.

I believe some students just take a little longer to learn the subject than other students. Without that preliminary preparation many students are at a huge disadvantage when they go to college.

46 posted on 10/02/2015 11:40:02 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: henkster

There are many reasons a student could be getting a B in math class, including the homework is boring.

Thankfully, a perfect score on the math achievement test helped get me into classes that were a better fit and I went on to do quite well in a technical area.

The broad brush you are painting with doesn’t work in every case.


47 posted on 10/02/2015 11:57:25 AM PDT by csivils
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To: SeekAndFind

Dese kids need dey diplomas.


48 posted on 10/02/2015 12:06:10 PM PDT by citizen (America is-or wa5s-The Great Melting Pot. JEB won't even speak American in his own home. NO Bush!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
However, the study that Mitchell and others supporting her effort cite as proof of their position also shows the real problem is actually with middle-school algebra teachers. Many of them just aren’t very good at their jobs.

I have a customer, teenage female, who had twice flunked Algebra. Because she knows she has to have it she talked her parents and school into letting her take the class with another teacher.

That time she passed.

Same kid, same material, different teacher.

49 posted on 10/02/2015 12:09:31 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: LibertarianLiz

When I was in 8th grade, another 8th grader and I tied for the county championship in Algebra. We beat a whole slew of 9th graders.


50 posted on 10/02/2015 4:36:44 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Bruce Kurtz
My son, 9th grade and STEM, will be earning college credits for math by the end of this year. He'll be in Pre-Calc by year end. He does 2 hours of math a day and blazes through Geometry, Alg. 2 and, then, Pre-Calc all this year. He's kicking butt and taking names, over 100 average so far.

And he's actually a little behind, many of the STEM kids have been in accelerated programs longer than him. They actually had a kid who graduated with my daughter last year that had done all the math the school could offer by 11th grade. They had to do something special for him, I believe.

51 posted on 10/03/2015 9:06:04 AM PDT by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: driftless2
No one will ever touch that issue.

The future, largely, really, belongs to those who can build and service the "machines". That means those who can code. Incidentally, every coding and scripting language developed was developed by some one of Euro descent with the exception of PHP (Jewish guy, I believe) and Ruby (Japanese guy). That's not be being racist, not wishful thinking--it's just a cold, hard fact.

The number one thing you can do is make sure your kid can code and think in code.

52 posted on 10/03/2015 9:14:33 AM PDT by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: riri
I remember watching a number of white liberal comedians (Louis C.K.) snickering about the loss of " white supremacy" when blacks and Hispanics were finally in the majority. Then whites would finally get what was coming to them. He actually laughed about that prospect.

I wanted to grab that a..hole by his neck and ask him how exactly were the minorities going to get revenge by destroying the people who responsible for them living better than most of the world's people of whatever color.

If whites are reduced to a small minority, I don't see a South Africa scenario. I see American whites establishing their own country and blacks and browns left to fend for themselves. The slaughter between blacks and Hispanics would rival the ethnic slaughters of India and Africa.

53 posted on 10/03/2015 10:56:32 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: driftless2

Louis C.K. is not only not funny, he’s creepy.


54 posted on 10/03/2015 11:03:43 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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