[Lazamataz]

Why can’t people see that, humanly speaking, the crucifixion was indeed a failure.

Humanly speaking, the crucifixion of Christ was our redemption.

That's not a failure, no matter how you slice it. It was God's PLAN.

Heck, Jesus knew it was coming and petitioned His Father for a revision, in the Garden, until He realized it was the plan.

Don't call it a failure, bro. You PC, bro?

[Jan_Sobieski]

Humanly speaking, the crucifixion of Christ was our redemption.

That's not a failure, no matter how you slice it. It was God's PLAN.

Very well said, Laz!