"I think you and I have very different notions as to what constitutes quite attractive. Is that you Laz? Posting under a different handle?" I respect everyone's opinion, especially on beauty for it is truly in the eye of the beholder. And, no, I'm not "Laz". I'm going to try to post a photo, which I've never done before, so not sure what will happen. Most of the photos of Irma Grese on the internet are from after her capture and during the Nuremberg trials. Hardly anyone would look their best after sitting behind bars for a while, and I'm sure they weren't afforded the greatest of treatment, either. No matter what, she beats Hillary.