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The Bourke armor helmet (Courtesy Bleed et al., used with permission)

Courtesy Bleed et al., used with permission
The gorget of the Bourke armor consists of cotton twill backing covered in iron scales. The wooden crosspiece was added by Capt. Bourke so he could mount it on the wall as a conversation piece. (Photo courtesy Bleed et al., used with permission)

Courtesy Bleed et al., used with permission
A rear view of the gorget shows the cotton twill backing. (Photo courtesy Bleed et al., used with permission)

Courtesy Bleed et al., used with permission

1 posted on 09/13/2015 12:59:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Might fit on a child’s head.


3 posted on 09/13/2015 1:10:22 PM PDT by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv

Plains Indians were known to have acquired armor, so it could have been taken from a Spanish soldier or traded for, and ended up far from any Spanish outpost. There was, I believe, a Kiowa chief named Iron Jacket because he wore either some kind of Spanish half-armor or chain mail.

Interesting that the helmet is open at the top. To let the heat escape, I presume.


6 posted on 09/13/2015 1:14:24 PM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Kardashians?


8 posted on 09/13/2015 1:23:29 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: SunkenCiv

Ancient aliens! Knights Templar! Vikings! Make up your own story. That stuff looks to be in pretty good shape for having lain in the dirt for centuries.


11 posted on 09/13/2015 1:31:00 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SunkenCiv

John Bourke who wrote,,

On the Border with Crook

Cool.


12 posted on 09/13/2015 1:33:59 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: SunkenCiv

They’re wrong. They’re much older than a few hundred years. These artifacts are from the battles Joseph Smith talked about. He just missed the location by a few thousand miles. /s


14 posted on 09/13/2015 1:51:38 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Send it over to the Jeffersonian. Dr. Hodgins will probably be able to tell you exactly where the iron ore came from that was used to make it.


18 posted on 09/13/2015 2:37:44 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SunkenCiv
where the artifacts have been sitting for decades in museum storage.

That happens a lot to OOPARTS (OutOfPlaceParts) when they don't conform to the prevailing theories. Too many professors/scientists have made a career out of supporting the status quo and when something disproving it pops up, it is either called "a religious object" and dismissed or "an anomaly" and hidden away in the museum basement.

I was a virtual pen pal with a gal up in Canada, who had a college friend aspiring to be an archaeologist. She who went on a dig, found an Oopart and excitedly brought it to the project leader. He told her that if she ever wanted a career in that discipline, to just shut up about her find. I never found out what the "thing" was.

20 posted on 09/13/2015 2:55:08 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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To: SunkenCiv
Maybe it goes back to the Habsburg's.
22 posted on 09/13/2015 3:05:58 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: SunkenCiv

Back in the 1960s, I read that some scale armor like this had been found east of Aztec NM and was in a bank vault at THE CITIZENS BANK there.


23 posted on 09/13/2015 3:15:17 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks similar to Spanish crossbowman armor.


24 posted on 09/13/2015 3:21:14 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SunkenCiv

Some early Spanish expeditions into the Trans Pecos area of Texas such as that of Coronado had officers and probably some soldiers who wore armor. Before that, the Spanish found the Aztecs wearing quilted cotton armor so it wouldn’t be a big step from combining the coolness of cotton to the scale metal armor.

All this is so well known that I’m surprised it wasn’t mentioned in the article.


34 posted on 09/13/2015 4:25:30 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one.... what's yoIur plan?)
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To: SunkenCiv

I remember listening to the Bruce Williams show early in the 90’s.
A guy called in and said he had found a bunch of Spanish treasure somewhere in the SW United States.
He asked Bruce for guidance on what to do about it.

The caller seemed genuine; always wonder what happened to the caller; or if it was real.


35 posted on 09/13/2015 4:32:39 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Going to Planned Parenthood for medical care; would be like going to Auschwitz for medical care.)
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To: SunkenCiv

This sounds like a good Louis L’Amour Sackett novel.


39 posted on 09/13/2015 5:48:34 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: SunkenCiv

Aztec Indians used cotton armor and the Spanish adopted it.


40 posted on 09/13/2015 5:50:59 PM PDT by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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To: SunkenCiv
an army doctor who claimed to have found them "enclosing the bones of a man in the arid country between the waters of the Rio Grande and the Pecos.

Could it have belonged to Yosemite Sam?

41 posted on 09/13/2015 6:05:14 PM PDT by Defiant (I will vote for the candidate that the GOPe and media hate the most.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Imagine wearing that in Texas during the summer.


51 posted on 09/14/2015 3:41:22 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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