[Boogieman]

Well, I think that just shows you don’t know these peoples’ mindset. There is no large difference for them. Loyalty to the club is a higher priority to them than any of these concerns that you hypothesize would influence them. If a rival club pulls guns, they are going to pull too, without even thinking about it. These people don’t fool around and “weigh the odds” once the violence starts. They play for keeps.

[Robert Teesdale]

Well, I think that just shows you don’t know these peoples’ mindset. There is no large difference for them. Loyalty to the club is a higher priority to them than any of these concerns that you hypothesize would influence them. If a rival club pulls guns, they are going to pull too, without even thinking about it. These people don’t fool around and “weigh the odds” once the violence starts. They play for keeps.

So do patriots.

And there are always fools. As another poster said, quite correctly, bikers by and large are not fools.