“My concern is with the subsequent actions by the State. I do not find those subsequent actions to be justified, legal, moral or acceptable - whether or not the bikers fired first or the State did. You do.”
The only alternative for you is that the bikers continued their killing of each other possibly even killing innocent civilians.
Thank you for your honesty.
The only alternative for you is that the bikers continued their killing of each other possibly even killing innocent civilians.
Thank you for your honesty.
I do not understand your post, so please clarify rather than putting words in my mouth or attributing positions to me that I have not espoused. I'll be happy to assist with that.
Here's my assessment of the situation, as I hold it today:
- The COCI meetings in Texas had been regular and unremarkable until this event, held at the Twin Peaks and other venues, and the management of the Twin Peaks was not receptive to law enforcement urging to cancel the event as it appeared to have no historical basis in fact.
- Law enforcement was heavily prepositioned for this event, including camera poles, at least one armored vehicle, sniper positioning and union attorneys.
- Law enforcement appears to have played a large role in the presence of the Cossacks at an event held by an organization they were not members of.
- Law enforcement does not act without purpose, plan or contingencies. The show of force was with the expectation that such level of force would potentially be exercised in full.
- The initial disturbance appears to have been the rolling of a motorcycle over a foot in the parking lot, with subsequent exchange of hostile words, blows and gunfire between bikers resulting in at least two and as many as four deaths.
- The initial disturbance and its rapid escalation is an easily arranged situation, were such outcome as we've seen to be desirable to any party or parties.
- It is reported that the Cossacks have law enforcement embedded within their organization, either with or without the knowledge of that organization. There are reports that a prospect or former patchholder (it is not entirely clear which) of the Cossacks was involved with the invitation and decision process. That process resulted in attendance by the Cossacks at an event they were not invited to by the event hosts.
- Immediately the initial fracas ensued, there was voluminous gunfire and chaos. That gunfire was accurate (per autopsy reports of headshots) enough to kill at least four and as many as seven more people and cause serious injuries to over a score of others.
- Mass arrests instantly followed on fill-in-the-blank warrants with unreasonable bail for unlawful purposes in direct contradiction of the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth and Eighth Amendments.
- Law enforcement conduct transitioned from organized, expert and coherently executed action to panicky, inaccurate public statements with extremely poor coordination and missteps in the post event handling (such as warnings of "mass biker C4 attacks on law enforcement") and the appointment of a law enforcement detective involved in the events as a jury foreman.
- Despite the armed presence on the scene of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; the Department of Homeland Security; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; and other law enforcement entities - there has been no media statement, information released regarding their participation, or other communication released to the public that I am aware of. I find that highly suspect.
I draw the following conclusions at this point:
- This was an engineered occurance.
There was no gradual escalation of law enforcement presence at Texas Confederation of Clubs events. This was an expected occurance. It was precipitated by what appears to be a law enforcement hand in the mix.
- There is an official effort to avoid release of the actual story.
Mass warrants with fill in the blank names and capital charges with unreasonable bail are bad law enforcement, bad judicial accompaniments, and bad media relations. That appears by design, and does in fact focus the "WTF element" of media scrutiny off the fact of death and rights violations onto procedural questions and ridiculous trivialities.
- This is a watershed event.
Just as Ruby Ridge, the siege and killing of the Branch Davidians, Oklahoma City, and the ongoing unrest in Ferguson and Baltimore among others have gradually and predictably notched forward the heat of our low intensity conflict - this disaster in Waco is doing the same, and in a framework of low intensity conflict moving from mostly subsurface to open engagement.
- This open low intensity conflict is going to get worse.
Nearly all parties to this conflict would like to see it de-escalate and subside, and a sense of trusted and unmilitarized community be restored. None of the parties involved know how to reach that point, as they are focused on fear and existential risk past the point of dialogue.
- Sides are being taken.
Declarations are being made; shots are being fired; men in uniform are killing and being killed in return; the nation is split; and the future is uncertain. The intensity will grow until those who refuse to take sides, will be forced to support one or the other under armed compulsion. (This is not unusual for any civil insurrection that broadens and deepens.)
That's just my $.02. I know where I stand in it. Those who need to know where I stand in it, do. Those who don't, of course may speculate to their endless delight and palsied amusement.
- RT